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  • Which of these ingredients makes it a gel?

    Posted by GabyD on March 30, 2020 at 1:27 am

    Hi everyone, I want to replicate the gel-like feel of this product.  Can somebody please take a look and let me know what they think was used to make it into a gel?  Many thanks.

    Ingredients:
    Alcohol
    Purified Water
    Glycerine
    Carbomer
    Triethanolamine
    tert-Butanol
    Aloe Vera Leaf Juice Powder.

    Mamiskin replied 4 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 10 Replies
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  • jemolian

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 3:08 am

    It’s the Carbomer with Triethanolamine as it’s neutralizer. 

  • Chemist77

    Member
    March 30, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Sanitizer all good, leave aloe out honestly. 

  • GabyD

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Can I use Siligel to make this into a gel?  Or even Tara Gum?  I am trying to use up what I have in the cupboard :D.

    Ingredients:
    Purified Water
    Glycerine
    Pentylene Glycol
    Benzalkonium Chloride 
    Cocoamidopropyl Betaine
    Sodium Chloride.

  • jemolian

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 7:49 am

    There shouldn’t be any issues with Tara Gum, though you will need to check if Siligel can take the Benzalkonium Chloride & Sodium Chloride.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    Siligel is not completely transparent. The product will be cloudy and will have unpleasant texture compared to crystal clear and fluffy carbomer gels. Would it work? Probably yes but would customers want it?

  • OldPerry

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    One significant problem with gums and even siligel is that they are more tolerant of electrolytes. Carbomer works well as a thickening agent for hand sanitizers because when the gel hits the salt on your hands, it releases the alcohol which is ultimately what kills the microbes.

    Gums and gels that are salt tolerant will not let loose the alcohol and will likely not be as effective. 

    There is no point in making a hand sanitizer that doesn’t work to sanitize the hands.

  • GabyD

    Member
    March 31, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    Thanks guys.  

  • Cosmetics1010

    Member
    April 4, 2020 at 7:10 am

    Gel like feel can also be reduced by varying the carbomer like ultrez 21?

  • 1149

    Member
    April 29, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    So there is no alternative of carbomer

  • Mamiskin

    Member
    April 30, 2020 at 4:36 am

    Sepimax zen does not need neutralizing and it’s great for hand sanatizer.

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