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  • What would make this smell like sulfur?

    Posted by gld010 on March 23, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    I was putting together a fluid emulsion for someone and I noticed it had a faint sulfur smell. Left it overnight and the smell got way worse- I opened the container this morning I got hit in the face with it. I know the obvious solution is to rework the formula, which I am doing, but I am really curious- have any of you experienced something like this before? What combination in this IL would give off a sulfur smell?
    The water is fine, no one else has had this issue with this batch of DI water we are using.

    62.1% Water
    .1% Xanthan gum
    1% Geogard Ultra (not that great but was specifically requested)
    10% butylene glycol
    3% ethylhexyl stearate
    1% diisostearyl malate
    1.3% montanov 68
    .5% cetyl alcohol
    1% squalane
    20% pigments

    Bill_Toge replied 7 years ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • gld010

    Member
    March 23, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    Tried a new formula that replaced ethylhexyl stearate with caprylic/capric triglyceride and diisostearyl malate with tridecyl trimellitate and it still stank. I paid more attention this time and the smell comes at the time of emulsion, precicely when I pour the oil into water. Going to try olivem 1000 next.

  • maria

    Member
    March 23, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    I’m the less qualified in this forum, but it’s right here that I learnt that ultramarine in pigments may turn the final product to smell like hell. A pH problem.

    Occasionally, ultramarine blue is used in products for very dark complexions, as long at the pH is above 7. Exposure to acid causes the evolution of hydrogen sulfide

  • gld010

    Member
    March 23, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    Oh, interesting! I did use an ultramarine pink so that is probably it. I will pay attention to pH and adjust as necessary. My only other experience with ultramarines is in powders and not emulsions.

    I’ll have to change preservatives because of the sodium benzoate in the Geogard ultra is only effective below pH 6- I’ll have to ask the client what she would prefer.

  • Bill_Toge

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    March 24, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    I agree with @maria, it’s most likely your ultramarines that are causing the smell; there’s no other obvious cause for it

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