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  • What is Xanthan Gum here for?

    Posted by kot on May 10, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    I’ve seen a  few of powdered cleansers two of them have  Xanthan Gum. 
    What is
     Xanthan Gum doing in dry powder formulas, what is it used for in there? Thank you.

    BABOR CleansingEnzyme Cleanser 

    Ingredients: Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate, Talc, Cellulose, Maltodextrin, Aqua, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbic Acid, Subtilisin, Lipase.

    and 

    DR. BARBARA STURM Enzyme Cleanser
    Ingredients: Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate, Talc, Cellulose, Maltodextrin, Water (Aqua), Xanthan Gum, Ascorbic Acid, Subtilisin, Lipase
    kot replied 3 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Pharma

    Member
    May 11, 2021 at 4:12 am
    Haven’t you noticed, the two LOI are identical ;) ?
    Maybe to help with lather or it comes from a pre-mix?
    If you switch out talc with zeolith, cellulose with cellulase, and maltodextrin with amylase, then you could use it also for washing your clothes too :D .
  • kot

    Member
    May 11, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    Pharma said:

    Haven’t you noticed, the two LOI are identical ;) ?
    Maybe to help with lather or it comes from a pre-mix?
    If you switch out talc with zeolith, cellulose with cellulase, and maltodextrin with amylase, then you could use it also for washing your clothes too :D .

    Yes, when I posted it here I’ve noticed that it is the same loi 😮 but it is what it is… see for yourself 
    https://www.cultbeauty.co.uk/dr-barbara-sturm-enzyme-cleanser.html
    and
    https://www.lookfantastic.com/babor-cleansing-cp-enzyme-cleanser-75g/11368074.html

    It is a powder …

  • nicki121

    Member
    May 11, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    They are probably including to form sort of a quick gel during cleansing. That is what I use a Gum for in my powder cleanser.????

  • kot

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 12:16 am

    nicki121 said:

    They are probably including to form sort of a quick gel during cleansing. That is what I use a Gum for in my powder cleanser.????

    Thanks, they might… Oh, you use powder cleanser too?! Which gum do you prefer for it? Is it really necessary? Thank you.

  • Paprik

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 1:10 am

    Hi,
    I think it’s just going to add slip into that formula once applied to the skin with water.

  • kot

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 1:15 am

    Paprik said:

    Hi,
    I think it’s just going to add slip into that formula once applied to the skin with water.

    Hi, but there is Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate, isn’t it slippery when wet?

  • Paprik

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 2:00 am

    kot said:

    Paprik said:

    Hi,
    I think it’s just going to add slip into that formula once applied to the skin with water.

    Hi, but there is Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate, isn’t it slippery when wet?

    Hey, sorry, I did not work with this material yet. It probably is, the XG should maybe only enhance it? Just my guess :)

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 2:03 am

    The Xanthan Gum and Cellulose are in there to give it a bit of body/thickening when reconstituted in water so it is not water-thin when applied to your face.  It may also give some body to the foam.

  • kot

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    The Xanthan Gum and Cellulose are in there to give it a bit of body/thickening when reconstituted in water so it is not water-thin when applied to your face.  It may also give some body to the foam.

    Thank you Mark, cellulose, do you think it might be HEC?

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    No, I think it is just Cellulose … perhaps to serve as a mild abrasive

  • nicki121

    Member
    May 12, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    I use Cellulose  and Siligel in my powder  Cleanser it does help with skin feel and creating a more stable thicker foam.????????

  • kot

    Member
    May 17, 2021 at 8:17 pm

    nicki121 said:

    I use Cellulose  and Siligel in my powder  Cleanser it does help with skin feel and creating a more stable thicker foam.????????

    Thanks. Really, how cellulose helps and which cellulose? Siligel? Hmmm interesting!

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