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  • Turbidity/Haziness in Shampoo formulation after pH adjustment

    Posted by puretsimple on December 28, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    Hello,  after years of formulating good transparent shampoos with APGs + SCS, I’m now having recurrent problems with a new formulation  using APGs + Coco betaine, but without SCS. 
    The formula is perfectly transparent until the final adjustmant of pH from + 8 to 5.5 with citric acid. The clear formula then becomes hazy/turbid. Any suggestions please?

    PHASE 1

    Sodium Cocoyl glutamate + Sodium cocoyl rice amino acids 20%

    Lauryl glucoside 8%

    Caprylyl/Capryl glucoside 6%

    Coco Betaine 7% 

    Coco-Glucoside + Glyceryl Oleate 3%

     PHASE 2

    Aqua 42.64%

    Organic Aloe Powder x 200 0.16%

    Rice protein (liquid)  3%

    Glycerine 4%

    Sodium PCA 4%

    Dehydroacetic acid + benzyl alcohol 0.8%

    Sodium benzoate 0.2%

    Potassium sorbate 0.2%

    Sodium gluconate 0.2%

    Xanthan gum 0.8%

     PHASE 3

    Citric Acid sol. 50% for pH 5.5

    COLD MIX METHOD

    Heat Lauryl glucoside until transparent and add to APGs. Slow stir for 15 minutes and add Coco betaine, stir then add Coco-Glucoside + Glyceryl Oleate, stir.  

    Mix phase 2 ingredients together. Add xanthan gum and homogenise until thickened.  

    Add phase 2 to phase 1 slowly under constant stirring for 15 mins until well blended.

    At this stage the formulation is very good- transparent and sufficiently thick with pH around 8.

    Add citric acid (sol. 50% ) slowly under stirring to pH (5.5). The mixture immediately becomes turbid. Any idea Why?

    JOJO91343 replied 6 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Vnnil

    Member
    December 30, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    My guess is that the Dehydroacetic acid protonates when you add the Citric acid and precipitates out of solution.

  • puretsimple

    Member
    January 1, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    Mmm, thanks Vnnil. That’s one idea I hadn’t considered. I’ll do a trial without and let you know the results!

  • JOJO91343

    Member
    January 2, 2019 at 6:09 am

    Actually, several factors could be the reasons for the Haziness / Turbidity when you add Citric Acid.  Your formula looks fine.  One of the things I noticed is Almost all of your ingredients have the pH range between 4 and 8 which is close enough to your target pH: 5.5. Only Lauryl Glucoside which has a pH range from 11.5 - 12.5 in most of the blends if you dilute the Raw Material to 10%.  You may like to make a small lab batch without it and check whether you will, still, get the Hazy/Turbid appearance.  Actually, as long as you have caprylyl/capryl glucoside and cocco glucose + glyceryl oleate in the formula, you may not worry about removing Lauryl Glucoside.  Then, you may try using Citric Acid 25% instead of Citric Acid 50% in pH adjustment of the Lab Batch which doesn’t have Lauryl Glucoside.  These are just my ideas about your issue.  I don’t know whether it will work or not.  It didn’t happen with me in the past

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