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  • Testing for Active Ingredient

    Posted by Bimsmide on June 4, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    Hi Everyone,
    My product is liquid soap. I use chemicals like LAS, SLES, SLS, Cocamide, Coco betaine in my formulation. Now I am being asked by regulatory agent to test for active substance in my soap. How do I do this? I need your advice. Thank you.

    Bimsmide replied 10 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Run a volatiles/solids and a water content test? How much info is needed?

  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    @bobzchemist: thanks a lot. But could you please share more info on what the test entails or a link to where more info could be obtained.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    I could, but I won’t. This is not a complicated subject to research, or one that requires specialized knowledge.

    If you can post on this site, you can run a google search yourself. If you have specific questions about one of the tests, I will be happy to help.
  • DavidW

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    You don’t seem to have any actives in your formula from what you have listed.

  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 3:23 am

    @Davidw: you mean linear alkyl sulphonic acid, cocoamido isopropyl betaine, sodium laureth sulphate, cocamide are not active ingredient in liquid soap?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 3:30 am

    Active Surfactant Matter is all we are talking about here I suppose. 

  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 5:34 am

    If you mean what milliachemist mentions then this post will tell you how to determine active surface matter - http://itsallinmyhands.com/2013/04/23/on-surfactants-and-formulation-face-wash-shampoo-and-shower-gels/

  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 8:26 am

    @milliachemist: yes

  • Chemist77

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    @Bimsmide MakingSkincare has posted a plausible and acceptable link.

  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    @milliachemist yes. @makingskincare many thanks for the link. But is there analytical procedure to proof that this is the % of ASM I have in my finished product? Thank you.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    an Epton titration will give you a rough idea of the ionic surfactant content, as a quick and easy method

    HPLC is the most rigorous technique I can think of, and will yield the most information - but the kit is very expensive, and setting it up and running it correctly is not a task to be taken lightly

  • DavidW

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    To me these/this is not active ingredients.  This is solids.  Active ingredients has the connotation of referring to a drug product and it’s active ingredients. 

    If they want a quantification then send it to a lab and test for solids.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 10:17 am

    The term “active ingredient” in cosmetics is confusing.  I agree with @DavidW that active ingredients are specifically ones that can support drug claims (At least in the US).  

    What most people call active ingredients I think of as “functional ingredients”.  These are ingredients that actually make the product work.  So functional ingredients in a cleansing product would be surfactants.  In a moisturizer the functional ingredients are the occlusive agents, the humectants and the emollients.
    It can be confusing though.
  • nasrins

    Member
    June 7, 2014 at 3:13 am

    @perry why confusing,it  is clear that in liquid soap the active ingredient is anionic surfactant.

  • nasrins

    Member
    June 7, 2014 at 3:34 am

    @bimsmide your active ingredients are SLES and SLS. others like betain are cosurfactant. however we have test for determining the amphoteric active.
    in your soap we can have these tests:
    1- determination of anionic active(titration with hyamine)
    2- determination of amphoteric active (titration with hyamine)
    3- pH test
    3- salt content test( if u add NaCl)

  • Bimsmide

    Member
    June 7, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Thank you everyone, @nasrins your contribution is particularly informative.

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