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PEG-120 methyl glucose dioleate won’t thicken my cleanser
I’m trying to roughly dupe a popular gel cleanser (Krave Beauty Matcha Hemp Cleanser), which seems to be mostly water, humectants, and some surfactants.
Formula 1:
66.5% water
3% glycerin
0.20% tetrasodium glutamate diacetate
0.1% allantoin
0.2% panthenol
2% Sodium lactate (and) sodium gluconate
15% Sodium lauroamphoacetate
5% lamesoft PO 65
4% coco glucoside
3% Peg-120 methyl glucose dioleate
0.5% Sodium copper chlorophyllin
0.5% germall plus liquidViscosity: Juuuuust a tad thicker than pancake syrup. It didn’t give my skin that “moist” feeling after rinsing off, so I figured I had to up the humectants just like the cleanser I was trying to dupe.
Formula 2:
A
13% Glycerin
7% Dipropylene glycol
3% Sodium lauroamphoacetate
3% lamesoft PO 65
2% Sodium PCA (and) glucose (and) lactic acid (and) sodium lactate
0.02% Panthenol
3% Peg-120 methyl glucose dioleateB
68.03% water
0.20% tetrasodium glutamate diacetate
0.25% Sodium copper chlorophyllin
0.5% germall plus liquidViscosity: Nada. Basically slippery water. Aside from that, the solution turned cloudy once I added Phase B.
For my third try, I upped both surfactant and humectants: 15% Sodium Lauroamphoacetate, 13% glycerin, 7% Dipropylene glycol, and 3% Peg-120 methyl glucose dioleate. I figured out the correct order of addition so the solution was crystal clear but the viscosity is similar to vegetable oil.
1. Is the thickening properties of PEG-120 methyl glucose diacetate dependent on the amount of surfactants?
2. Is the amount of humectants interfering with the PEG-120 methyl glucose diacetate?
3. Is there any way for me to thicken Formula 2 and keep the pH at 5.5? -
6 Replies
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@DeedeeUkulele Are you heating your mixture when adding the PEG-120…? I recommend you to follow the way of addition recommende by Lubrizol in this example formula: https://www.ulprospector.com/es/la/PersonalCare/Detail/1813/741507/Daily-Intimate-Wash-Formulation-CL-B0123AandB%5BAP%5D?st=20
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ketchito said:@DeedeeUkulele Are you heating your mixture when adding the PEG-120…? I recommend you to follow the way of addition recommende by Lubrizol in this example formula: https://www.ulprospector.com/es/la/PersonalCare/Detail/1813/741507/Daily-Intimate-Wash-Formulation-CL-B0123AandB%5BAP%5D?st=20
Yes, I always heat the phase that the PEG-120 goes in. I tried dissolving it in just water and glycerin, the solution remained water-thin. So I guess it really depends on surfactant level.
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use 2% peg 140 distearate and add to water phase with surfactants before heat to 60-70C
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DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ said:use 2% peg 140 distearate and add to water phase with surfactants before heat to 60-70C
Thank you! I’ll have to get my hands on some PEG 150 distearate to try this. Will it still give the same after feel as the peg 120?
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YES
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@”DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ”
Great… Thank you!
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