Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Is Caprylic Capric Triglycerides not compatible with iso propyl myristate?

  • johnb

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    March 24, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Oh!

  • Shubh123

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    March 24, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Microcrystalline cellulose is not suitable for hot process

  • Bobzchemist

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    March 24, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    I don’t understand your process. GMS and Stearic Acid and Cetyl Alcohol are all solids at room temperature. How are you possibly getting them into an emulsion at room temperature?

    Honestly, I think you need to start over from scratch. On top of all the other problems with your formula, there’s not a good suspending agent in there for the TiO2.

  • Shubh123

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    March 25, 2017 at 4:18 am

    @Bobzchemist
    1.  I am not getting them at room temperature.I am heating them at temperature upto 75 to 80. because KAD is dissolve at temperature of 80 degree.

    2. yes, i think there is problem in my formula. As i said yesterday, that the emulsion is prepared but today i see a small flakes are see on the surface of cream. I remove Tio2 and microcrystalline cellulose. I think it is due to recrstallization of KAD? What should i do to avoid this.

  • Shubh123

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    March 25, 2017 at 4:23 am

    My new formula is
    A
    Water-71.2
    EDTA-0.3
    B
    LLP-3
    IPM-5
    Dimethicone-2
    Hydrogenated polyisobutane-2
    Cetyl Alcohol-2.5
    Stearic acid-4
    GMS-4
    KAD-4
    C
    Polyacrylamide & C13-1Isoparaffin & Laureth7 - 2

  • johnb

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    March 25, 2017 at 7:47 am

    - - and even after all of this discussion I don’t see an effective emulsifier present.

  • Shubh123

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    March 25, 2017 at 9:03 am

    @johnb
    Sorry again! I am adding Acrylamide / Sodium Acrylate Copolymer, Mineral Oil (Paraffinum Liquidum), Trideceth-6 as a emulsifier.

  • johnb

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    March 25, 2017 at 9:51 am

    I don’t think that is a good enough emulsifier for the formula stated.

    I agree with Bobzchemist that the whole thing needs a careful re-evaluation.

  • johnb

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    March 25, 2017 at 10:17 am

    The literature for Cosmedia ATC (which corresponds to the mixture you quoted) states that:

    The prime function is as a rheological control additive for applications within the toiletries and cosmetics industries.

    It is NOT claimed to be an emulsifier.

  • Shubh123

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    March 25, 2017 at 11:54 am

    @johnb
    Thnx! I am also agree with you and Bobzchemist. I have to change formula.
    What should i do to avoid recrystallization of Kojic acid Dipalmitate?

  • johnb

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    March 25, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Perhaps when you have an acceptable, stable formulation worked out the solubility problem will disappear.

    Have you seen this?

    https://www.activeformulas.com/products/kojic-acid-dipalmitate

  • Shubh123

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    March 27, 2017 at 8:39 am

    @johnb
    Thnx! The link you shared is very helpful. 

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