Expensive Shampoo and Conditioner vs.

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Expensive Shampoo and Conditioner vs.

Posted by 1Armand2 on March 28, 2021 at 5:59 pm

Hi to all!

i just want to comment about the expensive Hair Shampoo and Conditioner I bought from Aesop and the Shampoo and Conditioner I made from the formula given by sir perry and others in this forum are almost the same in quality. The only difference is in texture.
What are your thoughts friends?

1Armand2 replied 3 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
13 Replies

OldPerry

Member
March 28, 2021 at 7:11 pm

Not surprising.

If you provide ingredient lists it might give us more to comment about.
1Armand2

Member
March 28, 2021 at 10:20 pm

I remember Sir Perry said to start with simple ingredients. So this is the ingrdients that work best for me!

Hair Shampoo

Distilled water
Sodium Olefim Sulfate
CAPB
Polyquanterium 7
Panthenol
Rosemary and Aloe vera extracts
Silk amino acid
Crothix
Germall plus
Fragrance oil coconut

Hair Conditioner

BTMS 50
Diemeticone
Panthenol
Coconut oil
Polyquanterium 7
Rosemary extract
Glycerin
Germall Plus
Silk amino acid
Fragrance oil coconut
ngarayeva001

Member
March 29, 2021 at 12:10 am

Panthenol and extracts are waste.
1Armand2

Member
March 29, 2021 at 12:49 am

Panthenol and extracts are waste but its there in Aesop’s ingredients!
Abdullah

Member
March 29, 2021 at 3:54 am

I was also trying to make gentle shampoo with APG but it was not gentle and not effective. As @Perry suggested i used SLES, CAPB and polyquaternium 10. Now i am selling it and it is the mildest Shampoo available where i live. Thanks Perry.

At What ratio AOS/CAPB are you using and can it be thickened with sodium chloride?
1Armand2

Member
March 31, 2021 at 1:34 pm

ratio is 2:1. i use crothix to thicken. have’nt tried
sodium chloride.
Abdullah

Member
April 1, 2021 at 1:11 am

I use 6:1
1Armand2

Member
April 1, 2021 at 5:26 am

What is AOS ?
justaerin

Member
April 1, 2021 at 7:27 am

@1Armand2 AOS is short for Alpha Olefin Sulfonate, which is another way to refer to Sodium Olefin Sulfonate.
Mel55

Member
April 17, 2021 at 12:58 am

Abdullah said:

I was also trying to make gentle shampoo with APG but it was not gentle and not effective. As @Perry suggested i used SLES, CAPB and polyquaternium 10. Now i am selling it and it is the mildest Shampoo available where i live. Thanks Perry.

At What ratio AOS/CAPB are you using and can it be thickened with sodium chloride?

@Abdullah, could you please share that formula? I struggle with producing a basic mild shampoo for my own use.
Mel55

Member
April 17, 2021 at 1:31 am

@Abdullah, sorry just to clarify, not asking for the whole formula, but I am interested in the percentage of SLeS you use as I can’t seem to lower it enough in my clarifying shampoo to achieve viscosity with mildness.

Current formula is:

10 SLeS

5 CAPB

83.5 H2O

0.5 Liquid germall plus

Na++ q.s.

So I just need to add 0.5 PQ10?

Thanks,
Mel.
Abdullah

Member
April 17, 2021 at 5:06 am

It was 6 part anionic,1part amphoteric,1part non-ionic surfactant
1Armand2

Member
April 18, 2021 at 4:22 pm

Thank you Abdullah!

10	SLeS
5	CAPB
83.5	H2O
0.5	Liquid germall plus