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  • Cleaning Residues left by Hair Conditioner Formulas

    Posted by DiamondD on May 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm
    Greetings Forum Members,
    I have keyword searched Foggy, and Glassware, and Conditioners separately in hopes of finding on old discussion.   Nothing turned up on the first two and Conditioners has years of topics, but none of the last two years had this discussed that I could see.
    I have a Hair Conditioner formula that contains the following ingredients that I believe are responsible for leaving a Foggy residue on my glassware (Pyrex Beakers Borosilicate Glass)
    Behentrimonium Methosulfate
    Bis-Aminopropyl Dimethicone (seems the most offensive)
    Dicetyldimonium Chloride
    Cetearyl Alcohol
    I am expecting the same issue to transfer to the stainless steel tanks/kettles when my batch sizes increase.
    After being suggested to use the Non-Ionic surfactant Tergitol NP9.   I was not satisfied with it’s results, and it is quite Eco-toxic.
    I’ve had decent success with a Raw Material I have access to Caprylyl/Capryl Glucoside.  I’d prefer to be sticking that material in finished goods, and not as a cleaning tool.
    I’ve seen online suggestions of scrubbing with Water/Baking Soda slurries.  This seems to work, but the abrasive quality is concerning. 
    Might anyone have experience or e suggestion for a cost effective commercial cleaning solution for this kind of residue.
    Thanks in Advance!

    belassi replied 6 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • DAS

    Member
    May 18, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Try anionics and hot water.

    We had similar discussions, but it was related to machinery instead of glass.

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    May 18, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    try a 5% solution LABS  in 1;1 water/IPA.

  • DiamondD

    Member
    May 21, 2018 at 6:29 pm
    The general response I’ve received from each of the Raw Material Vendors is this:
    “To clean such residue, I usually start with hot water, detergent, and a
    brush. If there is still residue then I would wipe it off with isopropyl
    alcohol.”
    After hearing this at first.
    [Mental Midget Inner-monologue]:  “Wow! Soap with hot water, Holy cow I would have never thought of that… and rubbing alcohol, jeez what a break through.”
    But then,
    [Sensible Professional Inner-monologue]:  “Ok let’s try the strongest detergent we have…. Hey, that’s actually not bad.”
    I
    must admit I had to switch from Dawn
    Dish Soap
    to straight powdered Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and water to get a good cleaning.  
    However there is still certain glassware which remains foggy.   

    I’m going to have to chalk this up to the 3M “Scratch-Free” sponges altering the surface of the once virgin glass.   Or, perhaps
    the Aminopropyl Dimethicone being particularly insoluble a
    slight residue will always persist. 

    In either case I’m not worried about cleaning Stainless Steel, or any risk
    of a slight residue transferring into other future batch
    formulas. 

    Kind Regards

  • belassi

    Member
    May 21, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    For the really stubborn stuff, try a spray of sulfamic acid then use acetone.

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