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baby body wash formulation
I would like to ask for help regarding this baby body wash that I am trying to make. This product is hopefully for my 3-month old baby who has really dry skin after using several commercial baby wash in the market.
Here is what I have come up with after doing my research:Decyl glucoside - 10%Coco glucoside - 5%Glyceryl caprylate - 5%Xanthan gum - 1%Sodium phytate - 0.5%Potassium sorbate - 0.5%Citric acidSodium chlorideWaterI would like to ask if the percentage I placed here is correct. If not, is there a computation or formula that I should follow? -
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“calculating” or formula computations are so entirely unreliable as to be worse than useless.
Substitute Suga®Nate 160NC for the glucosides, to improve mildness. Good starting formulas here: -
thank you for the information @bobzchemist
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I don’t think salt thickening will work so you may as well omit that.
Secondly, I doubt that Xanthan gum will give good sensorials.A thickener such as glucamate VLT will give great sensorials, improve the preservative, and better foam. -
thank you for the information @belassi
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Hi @Bobzchemist @Belassi
I took all your advices well. I was able to ask for samples, and the formulation was wonderful!
Unfortunately, Glucamate VLT and Suganate is quite expensive here in the Philippines.
I am currently working on this formulation, trying to replace Glucamate VLT.
Decyl glucoside
Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate
Olive oil
Polysorbate
Xanthan gum
Glycerin
Potassium sorbate
Citric acid
Fragrance
WaterMy problem is, the wash is giving a “squeaky clean-feel”. This is the reason why I added Olive oil and Polysorbate. But as soon as I added the oil, the foam in the formulation reduced substantially. Can you suggest something I could add to make this formulation work?
Another thing, do you think Potassium sorbate is enough as my preservative. I was thinking of replacing it with Phenoxyethanol. Because I’ve read somewhere that Potassium sorbate is a weak preservative.
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I’ve never had any problem with potassium sorbate provided the shelf life is not more than about 4 months, otherwise it tends to yellow. I prefer sodium benzoate.
You’re trying to fix the symptoms rather than the cause of the sensation. It is because your thickening technique is short-flow without the expensive thickener.
If you can obtain Stepan surfactants I believe they have a salt-thickening sulphate-free one. -
Thanks @Belassi
Your comments are really helpful!
I am now considering on going back to Glucamate. -
I was able to make another bottle of baby wash because I have few samples left of Glucamate CCO.
But how come I’m still having sensorial issues? There is still this squeaky clean feel to it.
I increased the concentrations of the oil, polysorbate and glycerin to 6%; and the problem now is, the foam decreased drastically. This is the same thing that’s happening to me when I was still using Xanthan gum..
What do you think am I missing here? -
‘the oil, polysorbate and glycerin’
I think that the effects you are experiencing are to be perfectly expected with those.
What’s the reason for using a polysorbate here? I would use PSB20 where I need to dissolve an oily fragrance in a mostly water based product. Or could use PSB80/85 as a supportive emulsifier in an emulsion.
But what role have you ascribed to it?For the harsh cleaning issue:
Is introducing cocamidopropyl betaine out of question? This would give a slight boost to your foam and manage the feeling of dryness.6% of oil is skincare emulsion level of usage, perhaps 2% if you like to have oil in your cleaning product. Hopefully CAPB with reduce the harshness.
Glycerin - I believe the consensus is that glycerin in a rinse-off preparation plays a physicochemical role in the product (I read on this board that it will prevent crusting around the bottle dispenser’s mouth) but doesn’t have an effect on the skin because it will be washed away with water.
As opposed to a leave-on product where it will stay on the skin. -
the oil will kill your foam; you’re best off using a water soluble derivative like Olivem 300
also, which polysorbate are you using? there are several different ones, and they all have very different properties
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If you include some Liquid Castile Soap at about 4% you will notice an improvement in the sensorial … it will reduce that “squeaky-clean” sensorial without killing your foam and allow you to cut down on the glycerin. That would also allow you to eliminate the Polysorbate and the olive oil.
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