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abrasive cleaning cream
Dear all.
I am looking for someone or company who can formulate an abrasive cleaning cream like: cif,jif,ajax….
Please let me know your offer.Thank you in advance
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There are thousands of patents devoted to calcite suspensions as are used in the products you mention. That knowledge alone should be enough to indicate to you AVOID.
The original products were based on a “structured liquid” comprising sodium laurate and an amine oxide detergent. These are used to suspend gound (powdered, 100mesh) calcite. It was found early on that the suspending power of the detergent blend was very much dependent on the fragrance in the mix.
I worked to some extent on the fragrance in the original Jif (Cif) product and I’m able to warn that a stable (marketable) suspension involves very careful attention to detail in the mixing and post mix handling.
An additional aspect of manufacture is that the product is so abrasive that filling equipment wears out very rapidly.
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Another thing comes to mind. There were stories that that products have been used as exfoliant toiletries.
They are intended as hard surface cleaners and should not be applied to skin.
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Thank you johnb.
I have seen many raw materials suppliers propose a sample formulas for making such product!
Also there are many companies that they are doing these products.
I am wondering how they are doing in terms of patents??
I agree the filling will be Donne with adequat equipement. -
What I meant about the number of patents was that the early ones are long expired so you are free to exploit them as you wish but, that doesn’t alter the fact that they are difficult to produce and need a precise manufacturing procedure.
The formulations offered by raw materials suppliers may well work but usually they have a disclaimer about patent rights and about stability of the product.
If you refer to EP0214540 Liquid abrasive cleaner compositions You will find one of the later (but still expired) Unilever patents with numerous references to their earlier work. These should be more instructive and helpful than anything from a raw materials supplier.
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If I remember correctly, INEOS had a patent on a scrub using silica that broke down into smaller particles as you used it.
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You can try UL Prospector or
https://lubrizol.com/Household/Literature/Formulations.html
for formulations.
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Johnb.
You have mentioned something about the parfum for such application.
What is the parfum characteristics?
Please can you share your experience?
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The following comments apply only to the early type soap/amine oxide formulations.
Certain combinations of soaps (alkali metal monocarboxylates e.g sodium laurate) and amine oxide surfactants e.g lauryldimethylamine oxide) can form gel-like complexes. These gels are “strengthened” by certain terpenes to form structured liquids with greatly enhanced suspending power.
Terpenes are components of numerous essential oils and therefore fragrances. some combinations of terpenes have greater structuring properties than others and it is these that are used in stabilising thstypes of calcite cream cleaner.
I am not willing to disclose the perfume or terpene combinations used*. A reputable and knowledgeable perfume house should be able to help in this.
The above may not apply at all in the formulations offered by raw materials suppliers trying to sell their viscosity modifying products.
*Not even for a fee.
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Thx a lot johnb. Any one can share more knowledge? We will appreciat that.
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If you want more information on the perfume formulation acting a a stabiliser for the product, I suggest you work in cooperation with your perfume house. It’s not just a case of picking a suitable smell from the shelves and hoping for the best. It depends greatly on the detergents present, the ratio of the detergents, the grade of calcite in the mix.
As you seem totally new to this product, can I suggest you carry out some experimental work with mixtures of sodium laurate, an amine oxide detergent and a suitable abrasive powder (100 mesh calcite in Jif/Cif) You can make the sodium laurate by saponifying coconut oil with sodium hydroxide.
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