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@Perry thanks 
Does type of emulsifier have effect on stability of emulsion without water phase thickener?

I have seen many lotions with cationic emulsifier that doesn’t have water phase thickener.
For example this lotion from Aveno

Active Ingredient:

Dimethicone 1.2% (skin protectant)

Inactive Ingredients: Water, glycerin, distearyldimonium chloride, petrolatum, isopropyl palmitate, cetyl alcohol, avena sativa (oat) kernel flour, benzyl alcohol, sodium chloride

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@PhilGeis how much contact time of alcohol 70% will sanitize the equipments? Seconds or minutes or more?

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@PhilGeis which equipments should i sanitize? 
Tank, homogenizer, Pipes, other small equipment Or all equipments?

How many times and when should i sanitize with alcohol?

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@ketchito thanks 
What is charge density?
How to know which surfactant has how many charge density? 

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@zetein thanks. Very helpful chart

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@RedCoast thanks

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@PhilGeis do you mean that chelating agents will reduce the effectiveness of Piroctone Olamine? 

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@PhilGeis it follows all these guidelines.

how do you sanitize?
i wash them properly befor and after work and store them dry and clean. What else should i do for sanitization and why?

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Graillotion said:

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@Graillotion that is very good.
Can you share a photo of your cream that how ot looks

Looks like this….and I think a blue container enhances the effect.

But I dispense from a clear plastic bag…into jars…and it is a nice light blue in the bag.

Thanks

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I like guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride more than 400 cps PQ10.

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@Graillotion that is very good.
Can you share a photo of your cream that how ot looks

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@chemicalmatt what does peg-6 and peg-8 do? 

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Polyglyceryl 10 Caprylate is also a good one

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Graillotion said:

100% NOT pure essential oil.

What was it advertised as?  When I see the words ….lavender essential oils….plural….leads me to believe this is promoted as some mix…with some EO’s in it.

Looks like a liter?  How much did that cost you?  In the US…a liter like that, from a top notch seller would cost about US $90.

This was around $15/kg. 
We regularly purchase from India at around $25/kg. Very satisfying quality. 
I haven’t compared it to the one from US.

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@Graillotion do they add their color to final product too if used @ ≤0.5% noticably?

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First of all, have you used this product? Did you like it? 
Use if for about a month and see if it can clean your hair enough.

Second, you cant thicken this much decyl Glucoside and glycerin. 

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For fungi you can use 0.05% Piroctone Olamine. 

Can be solubilized in phenoxyethanol. 

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@jamesmiju it as emulsion as @Bill_Toge said. 

I did asked them how they are producing it. At first they said it is a secret and didn’t want to tell, but when finally they said this much that at finall stage when essential oil and hydrosol are separated we do a trick and can’t tell the details of it because it is our business secret. When i asked them what is the benefit of it?  they said it reduces the cost of essential oil.

It also combines easily with water. 

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In addition to what @ozgirl asked, 
What mixer do you use? 
What are the size of your samll and large batch? 
What is the method? Phase A, B, C then mix or everything in one phase?
For how long do you mix small and large batch? 

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@PhilGeis i think it is good. 
I make shampoo in 200kg tank each time.
I wash the tank properly after emptying the tank and before using it again. 
When not in use, the tank is in the same room with raw materials, completely dry. During use we shift it to another room.
All other equipments are cleaned, used and stored like this.
I haven’t used alcohol to clean the tank or other equipments yet.

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@PhilGeis thanks 
What do you mean by “What is your making risk”?

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@PhilGeis it is 
SLS/SLES/CAPB/APG @3/7/2/2 active surfactants.
Cationic guar 0.2%
Amodimethicone emulsion 2.5%(0.75% silicone)
Guar gum 0.1%
EO 0.5%
Citric acid 
Water 
pH 5.1

The bottle is HDPE but i want to change to PET to reduce the cost.
 with flip top cap.
Sizes 200ml and 500ml.

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PhilGeis said:

Caprylhydroxamic acid is not that good as a chelator in preservative context.

Yeah but if if he want at least some chelating agent in cationic system this is the way ????

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I don’t like too much butter. 1% may be enough. Coconut oil is good. I would add some petrolatum or dimethicone to it. 
For viscosity these emulsifiers are better. 

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For me only 6% shea butter is more than what i want on my skin. How do you guys like such high amount of oil face?