Abdullah
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Thank you all
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@ketchito and what is a good silicone for this purpose?
I am going to purchase some 5 cst dimethicone for lotion. Is it good in Shampoo too? At what percentage? -
Glyceryl caprylate and caprylhydroxamic acid
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@singhc10 @klangridge thanks a lot for your information.
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@singhc10 which one is better?
Dimethicone 10cst vs Dimethicone 5cst -
@Fekher thanks a lot sir
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@Perry @Pharma @Fekher @chemicalmatt
Is it correct that i mix sodium phytate with water and store it at pH>10 without adding preservative to it because this way it is easier to use?
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@EVchem yes the ph is above 101.
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@Halim try this formula
All in active percentage
SLES %10
CAPB %1
Coco glucoside %1
Salt no more than %2
A gentle broad spectrum preservativeBenzoyl alcohol at %1 is more gentle than (CIT/MIT) at %0.01.
Don’t look at big companies. You don’t know how much they use. May be they can preserve the product with %0.001 but you cant at %0.01.
Use a different mixing tank than what you use for paint and see the results.
For us no matter how much we clean the tank after making Shampoo, when we add water in the tank for next time use it does some foam. So maybe something from your paint is remaining in the tank and mixed with hand wash -
@Pharma what about other chelators like sodium phytate?
We use it in every product to help preservative and to rise the pH if necessary.
How chelating effect of these two compared?
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@ketchito thanks a lot
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@ketchito what is a structured Shampoo?
Is it the ingredients or the making process that makes Shampoo structured or not?
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@himansh_20 i first wanted to make sulfate free products but it was not good. Then made sulfate products at least a hundred different formulas because i was afraid of sulfate and didn’t wanted my product to be harsh.
Here is what i learned.SLES is not harsh so don’t be afraid of it. Use at least %10 active SLES if you want good foam.
SLS is harsher than SLES and has less foam. So why use it? Remove this.
CAPB isn’t milder than SLES (in my experience may be because it has MCI/MI as preservative) and not only doesn’t increase the foam but decrease it. So use it at %1 just for viscosity purpose.
CDEA also just to shift the salt curve to left at %1
Don’t use glycerin
Use pq7 at %3.3 or 2.2 (0.2, 0.3 active)
Don’t know about your preservatives and edta as i haven’t used them.
Here is my suggested formula from your available ingredients for good foam.
SLES %10 active
CAPB %1 active
CDEA %1 active or don’t use at all
Pq7 %0.2 or 0.3 active -
@Pharma what is the problem with caprylhydroxamic acid?
I use it with glyceryl caprylate and glycerin (Spectrastat™ G2-NMB) thinking it is the most gentle preservative i can get.
Although it is very expensive
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@Belassi that is a good campaign.
I think if you say these things from your company page or a reputable page, people would accept and value it more than a random FB page that the author is unknown, criticising about a company.People accept and value an idea based on 3 things.
1. %60 who says it
2. %30 how it is said
3. %10 what is the ideaEx. If a random guy say something here about cosmetic no one takes it seriously, if Perry say the same thing the same way, everyone accepts it.
We get more than 10k impressions and at least 100 messages on $1.
Wish you success Sir
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@Perry What ratio would have lower stringiness?
Which one to increase or decrease? -
@ketchito so they use less CAPB only to reduce the chance of phase separation?
Is there any other benefit? -
@Pharma thanks a lot
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@Pharma up to what number would trisodium citrate rise the pH?
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@Pharma what about di and mono sodium citrate?
Which one is better to increase the pH of products? -
@Belassi does short flow mean less slip?
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@ngarayeva001 what specification of honey and ketchup are you comparing if not viscosity?
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@Belassi what does a short-flow surfactant mean and what surfactants do you use instead?
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@Perry good
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@Perry i mean how are they compared in these categories?
Foam
Mildness
Viscosity building