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  • ...and, of course, the US Patent and International Patent Sites...my old friends! :)
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  • Download it but it only had one formula and that was for shaving soap fragrance!  ;)
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  • Thank you.  When I am trying to create a new product I go out there and look for any formulation that is available for that kind of product.  Usually, when I find several formulas then often patterns emerge.  Specifically, I am looking a shaving soa…
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  • Pharma et al, I found a calculation I made years ago but I am not sure it is correct.  When I put these numbers through a lye calculator both KOH and NaOH numbers are lower than what this formula shows: (Image) 35 Baume = 28.83% solution = 11.53 lb…
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  • Sorry Pharma, Yes, I am going to make shaving soap and the table is correct with 35 degrees Baume!  (Don't get old!) Yes, I could (and will) recalculate the SAP numbers for this formula and see what I come up with, but what I am looking for is wha…
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  • Pharma, thanks for your input but now I'm even more confused!  I have tried to find info on Conversion Tables and Concentration Curve but didn't find anything I understand. I took the formula from the Thomssen 1937 book as written and put it throug…
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  • "The Baumé scale is a pair of hydrometer scales developed by French pharmacist Antoine Baumé in 1768 to measure density of various liquids. The unit of the Baumé scale has been notated variously as degrees Baumé, B°, Bé° and simply Baumé (the a…
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  • My understanding is that it is referring to a solution of lye and I need to determine the amount of water and the amount of lye in each of the two ingredients listed.  My keyboard doesn't have a "degree" symbol but it is referring to Potas…
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Thanks!  This observation about the thickness or lack thereof helps to develop a vanishing style cream as well as for using Tea Stearate in shaving cream!  Some books indicate that the excess Stearic Acid will thicken the formula wh…
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Interesting, thanks!  What was the consistency of your cream?
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Good to know! Thanks everyone!  I put the plastic gallon container in a water bath and in no time it was liquid again!
  • Pharma, thanks for getting back to me on this.  I should have remembered another time when triethylamine and triethanolamine were confused with each other... no problem!  I have a half gallon I'm using and another 2 gallons I found after posting thi…
  • https://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB9852620.htm "Triethanolamine appears as colorless oily liquid with the smell of ammonia. It is easy to absorb water and will turn into brown color when being exposed to the air and the …
  • Here's a picture of an example of triethanolamine solidifying.  It certainly looks like crystallization. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Triethanolamine_solidifying.png
  • Another option might be going to a restaurant supply place and checking out professional restaurant hotplates.  There are some really good options out there for these kinds of things.  I have a hotplate that I bought in one of those places that I ha…
  • Thanks, I did a search and found this: https://www.academia.edu/15820749/Acid_Soap_and_Phase_Behavior_of_Stearic_Acid_and_Triethanolamine_Stearate This section of this study seemed to help me find my answer: 2.2. Preparation of Stearic Acid and …
  • It sounds great!  I hope it works well for you!  Thank you for your help!
  • @Fekher, and it lathers?
  • @Fekher  but it's a cream not a paste, right?
  • @Fekher  Would you describe it as a "thick cream"?  When you tilt the container does it move within the container or does it stay still?  I'm looking for something that would have a pasty consistency with pearlessence that has enough body …
  • @Fekher , just to be clear, this is a lathering shaving cream sold in a container with a lid to be used with a shaving brush, it's not aerosol or a product dispensed in a tube.  I certainly can see the 5% to 10% superfat but I would think that at an…
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@Fekher, I am not sure I understand what you mean.  Increase the amounts of the oils and fatty acids or select different oils and fatty acids to use?  Please explain, Thank you, kind Sir!
  • @Fekher , I have been using information from many old Cosmetic Chemistry books such as Harry's, Pouchers, Flick and many more.  They all suggest a 45% oils/10% glycerin/45% water (including bases and additives) to get the best results and I am there…
  • (Quote) Bill,    I didn't see your post while I was posting but I did mention the same thing in my reply above.  I think that using a high percentage of Fatty Acids may be part of the issue.  I am using Stearic, Myristic and Coconut Oil (I made try …
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It may be because I am using high percentages of fatty acids and low percentages of oils.  It may also be because of using tea stearate in my formula as well as the ratios of KOH to NaOH.  It's a balancing act!  One version came out…
  • @Gunther - thanks for the suggestion and the link for Fatty Alcohols .... I have some Stearyl Alcohol I could use! Also, I already had that link open in my browser!  A good source! @Fekher - Some of my research suggested 3%-5% and other suggested t…
  • @Fekher I am thinking about a "vanishing cream" type of product to use after shaving but also for a shaving cream.  Many of the sources I have say conflicting things.  Some say 5%-10% free fatty acid will add pearlessence and softness to t…
  • (Image) I posted this formula from Harry's Cosmeticology 7th Version before without the procedures on the bottom which I now realize are important to follow in this type of formula!  This formula has been included in several books and online and non…
  • Fekher, thanks for your reply.  Your ratio works out to about 14/1 KOH to NaOH which is quite different.  It must be very creamy!
  • I'll make this quick! When I calculated the above formula at the 5%/1% KOH/NaOH ratio that they suggest, I come out with 7.5 and 1.0. When they do it, they come out with 7.0 and 1.5!  If I divide the 7.0 KOH by 5, I come up with 1.4 which is reall…
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