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Why hair conditioners are stable without water phase thickener like xanthan gum?
Why hair conditioners are stable without a water phase thickener Like xanthan gum but lotion and cream are not and creaming is happening?
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There is less oil in a hair conditioner. Plus the conditioning agents (like cetrimonium chloride) can help stabilize the emulsion.
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@Perry thanks
Does type of emulsifier have effect on stability of emulsion without water phase thickener?
I have seen many lotions with cationic emulsifier that doesn’t have water phase thickener.
For example this lotion from AvenoActive Ingredient:Dimethicone 1.2% (skin protectant)Inactive Ingredients: Water, glycerin, distearyldimonium chloride, petrolatum, isopropyl palmitate, cetyl alcohol, avena sativa (oat) kernel flour, benzyl alcohol, sodium chloride -
Yes, of course. The emulsifier is a key component of what makes a stable emulsion. You don’t necessarily need a thickener to have a stable emulsion.
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@Perry
1. is there any general rule that what types of surfactants need high amount whater phase thickener what what type need less or not at all?2. What factors influence the need for water phase thickener in emulsion?
3. How to reduce the next for phaterphase thickener with non-ionic Polyglyceryl 6 distearate as emulsifier?
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Abdullah said:
Does type of emulsifier have effect on stability of emulsion without water phase thickener?
I have seen many lotions with cationic emulsifier that doesn’t have water phase thickener.
For example this lotion from AvenoA cationic emulsifier (as I have recently discovered) eliminates a whole arsenal of tools from the bench….a lot of the gums and essentially all the polymerics. You have seen me battle through this situation (with my questions)…and it seemed like HEC or HPC were the only options. I found them disgusting.
However, some Swiss wizard did help me figure a way to slip some 305 into the formula, and keep it stable. It is a blended formula of 165 and Varisoft EQ 65.
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@Graillotion what cationic surfactant were you using?
Was it unstable without water phase thickener? Because cationic lotion i see in internet don’t have water phase thickener.
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