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its a very small percentage of the c-30. just to help out. I was thinking about removing it. Have you experienced separation with the C-25 or C-20 on the bottom?
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No, I only use c-25 as a gelling agentI think you could use polysorbate 20 maybe or peg40 to help emulsify these ceteareth
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no it didn’t experienced separation. not sure what to do.
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@Chemist5000 & @Rebelgreaser66 I posted complete formula about 3-4 months back in one of the posts. Please look for it, I again suggest to go Ceteareth-20 way @30%. Use a combination of glycerol and propylene glycol @7% & 8% respectively. Heat ceteareth-20 separately and process st 85-90C. Add Polysorbate 20 @2% and avoid any resin if you want a clear product. Add fragrance and preservative just before pouring into containers. I have already commercialized the product and it is stable @ 45C for 2 months plus.
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I am still having a little issue with separation with I stop mixing at 70°C. I am starting this at 90°C I am using Cetereath-20 at @20% so it would be so hard to scoop. I noticed that I am getting 2 layers a larger white layer and then a Yellowish layer that may be a little lump (PVP k-90). I am not using Poly-20 but Peg-7 glyeryl Cocate and Peg 40-HCO. I am thinking about change the PVP K-90 to styleze cc-10. What do you think?
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I have got it right every time I do the trial. Just follow what I suggested, get the base right first before you add the additives.
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“Please look for it, I again suggest to go Ceteareth-20 way @30%. Use a combination of glycerol and propylene glycol @7% & 8% respectively. Heat ceteareth-20 separately and process st 85-90C. Add Polysorbate 20 @2%“
I am assuming you are speaking of this statement made earlier. I will do it today. One thing I do also is stop the mixing around 70C so the bubbles will dissapate . Could this be causing the separation?
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Add PVP but remember it will disturb the clarity. Process at 85C since below that it is quite difficult to get a uniform product. I have used PVP K90 at upto 3% but compromised on clarity. IMO the hold of wax itself is perfect, I added PVP since customer was insisting. Should be slow mixing and you will have no issues.
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clarity is not a big issue with me right now. I just want a working formulation. thanks!
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That must work as I just gave you the commercial formula.
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