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  • Water based pomade

    Posted by Natasha on March 8, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    i making pomade based water, When I warm it up  forms dense bubbles and foams. I would like to know if anyone has a tip The foam that is left over the surface.

    colorier replied 6 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    March 8, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Try vacuuming the air out?

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    March 13, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    a sonicator should also work if you warm to reduce viscosity and leave in overnight. 

  • manny

    Member
    March 13, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Not sure how you are doing your mixing.  glass stir?  Stick mixer?  milk frother?

    Would need more info on your process. And temps.

  • Natasha

    Member
    March 19, 2017 at 6:02 pm
    In this case I am using a boiler, when the temperature rises above 50 degrees celsius, the product creates a thick foam. 
  • manny

    Member
    March 23, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Still impossible to give you an answer without more details. I’ve never seen foam when making water based pomade. 

  • Chemist77

    Member
    March 23, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Try taking it it to a higher temperature and see if the bubbles subside. 

  • SVOrtega

    Member
    March 24, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Maybe try altering your variables and parameters.

    Are you using constant or variable agitation?  Keep your heat below 50 deg. C (maybe at 40?-see if the foaming still persists?).

  • manny

    Member
    March 25, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Do NOT keep heat under 50 c. Oils & waxes are to be heat at 80-85C. 

    again without knowing what ingredients you are using it’s impossible to help determine what is causing the foaming .

  • gregwhite

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    March 29, 2017 at 10:23 am

    @Chemist77  wouldnt heating it more be likely to cause more bubbles?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    March 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    If it is ceteareth-25 based then yes it will. 

  • gregwhite

    Member
    April 3, 2017 at 11:46 am

    what about cetereath-20?

  • Chemist77

    Member
    April 3, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    Try it, have seen it behaving better than 25 ethoxylate. 

  • DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ

    Member
    April 3, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    try adding surfactants slowly beneath the surface and decrease agitation.

  • colorier

    Member
    August 20, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Hi, I have the same problem even with my sample batches being reduced only to ceteareth-20 at 29% and the rest 71% water, I tried reducing mixing speed to the minimum, what I get is only about half of batch clear. 

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