Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating General Use of Tallow In Cosmetics

  • Use of Tallow In Cosmetics

    Posted by gisele on January 23, 2023 at 6:34 pm

    Hello. I see several small companies selling tallow based skincare products. Does anyone know if this is allowed by FDA regulations?

    Microformulation replied 1 year, 3 months ago 9 Members · 13 Replies
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  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    @gisele

    Not absolutely certain, but I had a couple of Tallow inquiries last week.  Perhaps an emerging trend.

  • Margaret

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 6:58 pm

    A previous member of this group thought that tallow is NOT used  because, as he said, “PETA would be all over them”.  Maybe this was referring to LARGE companies, who’d be noticed by PETA, but not small ones(?). 

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 7:01 pm

    It’s used in cosmetics soaps typically as tallowate - FDA does not have authority over pure soap.
    if your concern is for BSE - see: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=700.27

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 7:26 pm

    @gisele:

    Tallow is primarily tryglyceride composed of Oleic and Stearic Fatty Acids.  Should not be a problem in cosmetic products.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    Technically not a problem, but from a marketing standpoint it might be.

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 9:54 pm

    Agreed with all: still good to use but neither vegan nor Halal. An aside: should you ever want to buy tallow-based glycerin USP, Kosher or non, you’ll pay twice the price for a special order with a two-week lead time, and then only through select distributors such as Rierden Chemical in Chicago (hometown of commodity tallow). This is why I start to steam every time I see greenies mention “vegetable glycerin” in their label copy and marketing blurbs. Listen up homeys: it is ALL Vegetable Glycerin!! Byproduct of biodiesel and palm & coconut oil fatty acid fractionation. ALL of it. So much veggie glycerin around they need inventive ways to use it up faster.

  • Margaret

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 10:51 pm

    I had once asked if I could order stearic acid FROM TALLOW. I was given the response, “Only YOU would buy it” Such a WASTE to NOT use up the fat from the cattle industry. It’s nice to see it being used by some large soap manufacturers, at least. I am lucky enough to be able to BUY the waste fat from the local Water Buffalo people around here at least. Saves it from anaerobic decomposition in our local landfill. 

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 11:51 pm

    But, if the cows are only fed grass, would it not then be Vegan?  And, what if the cows are Jew-ish like George Santos?

  • Graillotion

    Member
    January 23, 2023 at 11:54 pm

    But, if the cows are only fed grass, would it not then be Vegan?

    Grass-Fed-Gan?

    Vegetarian fed, free range, grass fed-gan tallow.

  • Margaret

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 12:02 am

    @MarkBroussard: you MUST be spanked! 
    Further to tallow from grass-fed. It’s $25 for 750 grams. Tallow from grain-fed cattle is $16 for 1500 grams. I’m sure the grass-fed is magical.  

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 12:13 am

    @Margaret:

    Yeah, but the grass fed cows are Vegans … Vegecowllow

  • Abdullah

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 1:56 am

    Agreed with all: still good to use but neither vegan nor Halal. An aside: should you ever want to buy tallow-based glycerin USP, Kosher or non, you’ll pay twice the price for a special order with a two-week lead time, and then only through select distributors such as Rierden Chemical in Chicago (hometown of commodity tallow). This is why I start to steam every time I see greenies mention “vegetable glycerin” in their label copy and marketing blurbs. Listen up homeys: it is ALL Vegetable Glycerin!! Byproduct of biodiesel and palm & coconut oil fatty acid fractionation. ALL of it. So much veggie glycerin around they need inventive ways to use it up faster.

    By Halal do you mean for muslims? 
    I think it has no problem. 

  • Microformulation

    Member
    January 24, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    We worked on a Hand Balm. A legacy Formula was provided and they used tallow in the product. Once they began sales, they did get some pushback. They reformulated for this reason as well as some issues they were having in obtaining consistent stocks of the tallow to support larger manufacturer runs.

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