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  • Unable to thicken up

    Posted by Penguin on April 21, 2025 at 7:42 pm

    Can anyone help me with my bath gel formulation please? I highly suspect that the surfactants are the culprit to low viscosity issue. Should I change the surfactants combination? I’m trying to use EWG green rated ingredients for my bath gel. Thank you.

    Water 72.6%

    Disodium EDTA 0.05%

    Glycerin 3%

    PEG-150 Distearate 0.5%

    SCI 3%

    Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate 5%

    Lauryl Hydroxysultaine 7%

    Sodium Lauroamphoacetate 3.5%

    Olive Oil PEG-7 Esters 0.5%

    Lavender Oil 0.5%

    Decyl Glucoside 3%

    Hydroxyacetophenone 0.5%

    1,2-Hexanediol 0.5%

    Caprylyl Glycol 0.15%

    Ethyhexylglycerin 0.2%

    Abdullah replied 3 weeks ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • MaidenOrangeBlossom

    Member
    April 21, 2025 at 10:23 pm

    Have you tried salt?

    • Penguin

      Beginning formulator
      April 22, 2025 at 8:31 am

      Yes I did, but doesnt help much

  • ketchito

    Member
    April 22, 2025 at 3:42 pm

    Remove Glycerin and Decyl glucoside (you could replace the last one by Coco glucoside, if you want).

    If the Alpha olefin sulfonate is at 40%, double the amount.

    Replace Lauryl Hydroxysultaine by Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine.

    That should give you a thicker system, and if you require more, add a bit of salt or Cocamide DEA (or similar).

    By the way, your preservative system is not robust, but @PhilGeis would be more suited to comment on that.

    • Penguin

      Beginning formulator
      April 23, 2025 at 6:39 am

      Will try your suggestions and see if it helps! Thank you 😁

    • PhilGeis

      Member
      April 23, 2025 at 9:47 am

      As my friend ketchito said, that is a weak system. How did you come up with it?

      Need a primary - CMIT, PE or the like

  • kbaddack

    Member
    April 23, 2025 at 12:41 am

    I have found adding ingredients before PEG-150 can significantly affect the resulting viscocity. I would add the PEG-150 in first.

    • Penguin

      Beginning formulator
      April 23, 2025 at 6:44 am

      I added PEG-150 in the beginning too but still unable to get the desired viscosity

  • Abdullah

    Entrepreneur
    April 25, 2025 at 2:40 am

    What ketchito said+ Ethyhexylglycerin, 1,2-Hexanediol, caprylyl Glycol & Lavender EO all reduce viscosity

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