• Titanium

    Posted by amb5150 on November 4, 2017 at 4:42 am

    Hello,
    I’m making liquid matte lip color and notice that certain color mixes show up different in the lip gloss tube where it looks nothing like the color made.

    Example.

    6½ tsp. Isododecane

    2 tsp. Flake Resin (Trimethylsiloxysilicate)

    ½ tsp. Candelilla wax

    2¼ tsp. Dimethicone 1.5

    ¼ tsp. Nylon
    12

    ½ tsp. Silica Dimethyl Silylate

    ¼ tsp. Silicon Dioxide

    3 drops
    Caprylyl Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin

    2 tsp. Colorant (Powders 1/2 tsp each: Red 7, Yellow IO, Black IO, Brown IO) 

    (Liquid w/ Castor oil: 1 drop Blue 1, 2 tsp. Titanium)

    I blend this very well and it goes on great on the lips but shows streaky in the lip gloss tube. Almost like a foam mixed with the color. It doesnt do this with all the colors mostly those where I used white. I have tried Titanium Dioxide, Titanium Dioxide-Rutile, Titanium Dioxide liquid (premixed with castor oil). Not sure what else I can do. Any suggestions?

    Bobzchemist replied 6 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • amb5150

    Member
    November 4, 2017 at 5:07 am

  • Lainee

    Member
    November 10, 2017 at 8:52 am

    Did you put it in the tube while it’s hot? As in almost like boiling hot?

  • Lainee

    Member
    November 10, 2017 at 8:54 am

    We have liquid matte lipsticks too but we never encountered that problem when we put it in the tube. 

  • roddelta

    Member
    November 15, 2017 at 4:54 am

    I’ve seen similar effects when hot pouring a waxy iron oxide coloured product. I think its to do with the particle size of the pigment. The colour “float” improved with the addition of a  wetting agent, we had success with lecithin.

  • Bobzchemist

    Member
    November 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Yes, it absolutely has to do with pigment particle size. On a home level, there’s not much you can do unless you buy grinding equipment or buy pre-ground pigment dispersions. A hand muller and a frosted glass grinding plate is what I usually recommend for home use. http://www.art-boards.com/Small%20Glass%20Muller.htm 

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