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  • replacement for Olivem-800

    Posted by Vive-skye on February 3, 2025 at 10:29 am

    greetings!

    Hoping someone can recommend a cosmos-certified PEG-free alternative to olivem 800 which has been discontinued- looking for something to replace it at 2.5-3% to make an opaque, spray-consistency milky serum. I’ve tried both olivem 1000 and ecomulse in the formula and the texture is much thicker/ more gel-like versus the perfect milk I achieved with olivem 800. Also using xanthan to stabilize at 0.3%, which may not be needed with these more robust emulsifiers but even knowing that, the ‘look’ of the emulsion still wouldn’t be right.

    help! SO grateful for any feedback.

    Vive-skye replied 1 month ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Aniela

    Member
    February 7, 2025 at 7:24 am

    Hi,

    The title and explanation are a bit misleading: olivem 800 is not PEG-free as “ceteareth-” refers to a PEG (polyethylene glycol-) ether of cetearyl alcohol; the number behind “ceteareth-” refers to the average number of molecular units -CH2-CH2-O- (explanation under “ceteareth-6” on cosmileeurope.eu)

    That being said, you could check this blog https://formulabotanica.com/organic-sprayable-body-lotion-sucrose-stearate/

  • Vive-skye

    DIY formulator
    February 8, 2025 at 2:53 pm

    Hi!

    Yes I know olivem-800 isn’t peg-free was just hoping to take this opportunity to sub it for something that is going forward! Sucrose stearate does keep coming up and I’ll definitely try that, thank you- it just seems like it is a bit harder to work with (this formula you shared suggests letting it sit for 1-2 hours in the water phase, which in our lab would make the workflow more difficult)- do you know of any options that are dissolved in the oil phase that would function similarly?

    thank you so much for your response!

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