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  • Queen Helene Cleansing Cream

    Posted by Queen-B on April 30, 2025 at 5:16 pm

    This is one of my favorite cold creams! I wanted to try to make it for myself but was wondering if anyone could help with the possible percentages of the ingredient list:

    1. Mineral oil

    2. Water

    3. Beeswax

    4. Ceresin

    5. Sodium Borate

    6. Stearyl Alcohol

    7. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

    8. Fragrance

    chemicalmatt replied 1 month ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • ozgirl

    Member
    April 30, 2025 at 5:39 pm

    A quick google search will lead you to dozens of cold cream formulas.

    For example: https://pharmaeducation.net/cold-cream-uses/

  • MaidenOrangeBlossom

    Member
    April 30, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    Experimenting would be much better than duping the formula. I have a lot of reason why but I’ll do my best to give an idea of what I would do:

    1. Mineral oil (I would sub something lighter like jojoba or squalane, unless you need a very occlusive lipid, you can prob use less than 10%)

    2. Water (Usually 50%+ of a cream recipe)

    3. Beeswax (Usually less than 4% of a cream recipe but could be more)

    4. Ceresin (Never used but for a special treat try a floral wax)

    5. Sodium Borate (Haven’t made soap before)

    6. Stearyl Alcohol (Nice powdery feel and co emulsifier, usually well under 10% of recipe)

    7. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (Not the most gentle cleanser, try subbing SCI at around 3-5%)

    8. Fragrance (Eliminate, not worth the potential allergen although floral wax can introduce allergens it has a strong scent and has been gentle for my sensitive skin, usually fraction of a percent)

  • Queen-B

    Member
    May 1, 2025 at 2:13 pm

    Thank you both! ????

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    May 19, 2025 at 2:36 pm

    Just FYI, that article - and your formula vector - has it all wrong. The author defines beeswax as a “stiffening agent” (insert Viagra joke here) when it is actually the primary emulsifying agent in tandem with borax in the Old School cold creams. The classic beeswax-borax ratio is ~ 12:1 using sodium borate decahydrate. We Old School formulators refer to that last one as “10 molar borax”. Peace.

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