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  • Oxford Biosciences - serious?

    Posted by tinas on February 14, 2023 at 2:54 am

    Oxford Biosciences - I cooperate with a company that use Oxford Biosciences to certify a skin care series. Oxford had a question that make me wonder if they are “competent” and trustful: They asked about a MSDS of a linseed ferment. They thought it is an oil? (fermented oil??) And they need to know how this ferment is made - like they do not trust the standard MSDS - is this normal? Maybe it is, but I started to doubht this certification.

    Bill_Toge replied 1 year, 2 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Graillotion

    Member
    February 14, 2023 at 3:06 am

    Fermented oils are all the rage now.

    Yes…they add some bug food….to feed the bugs…. But this is a huge biz…in Korean skincare…and elsewhere.

    So to answer your question….of course it is an oil.

    Concept is…break that triglyceride bond…so you can get some value out of the FA’s.

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  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    February 15, 2023 at 10:01 am

    Yes, Oxford Biosciences is legit. I have a client that used them for their Safety Assessment Report for the EU. The level of detail they are requesting is customary for EU Safety Assessment Studies and product dossier for product registration

  • hassanizhar

    Member
    February 17, 2023 at 5:40 am

    It’s difficult to say for certain whether this is normal without knowing more about the specific situation and the context of the request. However, it is not uncommon for certifying agencies to request additional information about the materials being used in a product, especially if they have not encountered those materials before.

    MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) is a document that contains information on the potential hazards and safe handling of a chemical substance or product. If the MSDS for the linseed ferment is not readily available or does not provide sufficient information, it is reasonable for Oxford Biosciences to request additional information about the product, including how it is made and its intended use.

    It’s also possible that the certification process requires a more detailed understanding of the product’s composition, and the additional information is needed to ensure that the product meets the necessary standards. In this case, the request for more information should be seen as a normal part of the certification process.

    Overall, it’s important to work with certifying agencies that are reputable, transparent, and have a track record of providing high-quality services. If you have concerns about the certification process, it’s important to communicate with the agency and ask questions to ensure that you have a clear understanding of their requirements and expectations.

  • Bill_Toge

    Member
    February 17, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    Oxford are legit, but if the person preparing the assessment is the same one we used to deal with, they are not the sharpest tool in the box

    for instance, they refused to certify one of our products because it contained melatonin and was therefore a medicine(???), completely ignoring the fact that a) it was topically applied and not ingested, as medicinal melatonin is; and b) melatonin has no legal restrictions in cosmetics

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