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  • belassi

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    March 16, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    Exactly. The cost of THC is so high that I can’t see it ever being a cost-effective ingredient, even if it worked, which I doubt. The amount of product I created was limited to a few test jars, for that reason.
    However I have become interested in doing my own extractions as a result. Very tempted to buy a small installation for doing supercritical CO2 essential oil extractions. There’s a small kit available for $350 complete with compressor that does the job.

  • Silvie

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    March 17, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    If you get a chance to do it and you fancy trying it again, really sounds great.
    It will be much more professional than when I make extractions at home (not CO2 and of course without machinery) without being able to analyze them and not know their compounds exactly. There is THC is evident but i don´t know in what quantities etc.
    What use will you give it? I would love to use a kind of alembique that I have at home to extract essential cannabis oil, my father built what I think is an alambique, I have all the books and notes of my father, he was an agronomist engineer but I still do not know how to use it.

    As far as you can, and within your borders of secrets, please keep us informed. :)

    I have found body care products made from hemp CBD (INCI missing)

    http://www.alviolor.com/producto/locion-hidratante-corporal-canamo-body-milk-canamo/

  • belassi

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    March 17, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    The really annoying thing is that I found a kit for around $350 for CO2 extraction and now I can’t find it again :(

  • microformulation

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    March 18, 2017 at 1:40 am

    They are getting popular in the US and I will see if I can find one. The Recreational Marijuana Industry uses CO2 Extraction to create many of the oils.

  • belassi

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    March 18, 2017 at 1:57 am

    Yes, that’s what it was for. I was impressed by their knowledge of using different pressures and temperatures to extract various fractions. I imagine it could be used to extract e.o.’s from pretty much anything, in small quantities.

  • Silvie

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    March 18, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    This is for playful use, what do you think about this for me? It would take a while to buy it if it’s worth it. It is not about CO2 extraction or steam distillation, but it is a way of heating the cannabinoids with steam.

    https://www.alchimiaweb.com/classic-volcano-vaporizador-product-998.php

    https://www.volcanovaporizer.com/shop_us/en/about/

    “I found a kit for around $350 for CO2 extraction and now I can’t find it again” It seems be very very cheap. Have you found it?

    Best wishes for your projects.

  • belassi

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    March 18, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    no… no good.

  • Silvie

    Member
    March 18, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Belassi, what is no good? Volcano for smoking or your extraction kit? why?

  • belassi

    Member
    March 18, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    volcano for smoking it, OK. But the thing I saw is a proper kit in stainless steel using supercritical CO2 and a small compressor. I thought I’d be able to find it again easily enough but no… I will have to spend hours going back through browser history I suppose.

  • belassi

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    March 18, 2017 at 11:43 pm

    I think this is the closest. But it still needs a vacuum pump. https://www.bestvaluevacs.com/mini-x.html

  • DCan

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    March 22, 2017 at 1:57 am

    Hi everyone the conversation on here has been great and a I have learned several things through this thread. 
    @kloe I am looking to separate the THC from cannibis in most of the products. I learned at a Marijuana conference I attended that this is possible. I am not exactly sure on the how. Not much research has been done on the beauty cannibis industry, but it is developing and the small research I have encountered speak of benefits for skincare concerns such as acne, excema, dry skin. Benefits also claimed are antioxidants which are used in many beauty products marketing efforts. I would like to use THC in one of the products. I am looking for a chemist willing to develop a product to test out.
    my apologies for the late reply.

  • Silvie

    Member
    March 26, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    DCan, good luck with your project. If
    I were you, I would contract a cosmetic chemist, and a laboratory to
    analyze and make all possible tests concerning this substance. I hope you can tell us your progress.

    Belassi, 
    How are u doing?! personally I have given myself a rest with this substance. I feel like I am saturated and I am also trying to focus on mathematics. incompatibility!

    Regards.

  • belassi

    Member
    March 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Oh I don’t know really. I am giving a 2 hour Math class in 5 minutes. Not bad for a 70 year old. Later on I’ll get into the lab.

  • DCan

    Member
    April 3, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    Thanks so much @Kloe I will update y’all for sure!

  • alias

    Member
    April 7, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    “Hello,
    Sorry for the late follow ups. (I am guessing you were stoned.) I am looking to formulate products with CBD oil. Not the hemp CBD. (Because hemp CBD and some other CBD from somewhere else is.. somehow different?) Cannibis (as opposed to .. hemp.. which is .. cannabis?) has antioxidants, which are great for skincare products. (Then why not just use tocopherols in vitamin E?) The oil also treats inflammation with Acne, excema, psoriasis. (You forgot to cite your references to the scholarly articles on the double blind placebo controlled studies to support these medical claims.) I am looking to start a full line of skincare from facial cleansers, exfoliators, mask, Oils, serums etc. “

    @Dcan, you truly have no idea what you are getting into. Unless you are a scammer, like all of the other CBD peddlers:

    https://www.fda.gov/newsevents/publichealthfocus/ucm435591.htm

    https://www.fda.gov/newsevents/publichealthfocus/ucm484109.htm

    I’ll expect you will get similar letters and lawsuits for your product, which will ultimately fail.

    I love to hear my hippy dippy friends say the government and FDA inspectors are “taking over medical cannabis, taking over CBD”… and then I have them look at how many people in these reports and analysis by the FDA are selling this BS that contains NO CBD AT ALL! What a giant joke. Fools. Anyone want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?

    Well, if it is a medicine, those publicly funded science institutions that protect the public sector from frauds and snake oil peddlers should be regulating it.

    Look at the amount of fraud that are in these FDA reports about these CBD scammers! So many people selling CBD… that contains no CBD… come on… if your kid were having seizures… you want to buy products from these unregulated snake oil salesmen? Not only do these people need to be shut down, they need to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail, like snake oil peddlers of lore. Rick Simpson, oil, etc. What a load of BS.

    If CBD is a medicine - and it was found in clinical trials to have therapeutic effect by GW Pharmaceuticals long before it was claimed to be a “supplement” by the snake oil peddlers - then treat it as a medicine. That is the law. You don’t get to sell a medicine as a cosmetic company. There is no grandfathering in for the “supplement sellers” on this one, kids. The law is set. If CBD is a medicine, you better be a pharmaceutical company producing these products.

    Or, you better have been selling CBD as a supplement long before 2005 when GW Pharm did their trials. And no one has yet stepped up to that plate with any sory of integrity. It’s a done deal. CBD is a medicine (though still schedule 1, but go figure).

    Scamming hippy dippy pseudo-science snake oil salesmen should not be selling this. Only federally licensed laboratories should sell pharmaceuticals, and let’s rid the world of these scammers.

    Those reports are damning. I have never seen such scamming that is not being forcefully shut down by the FDA. But, as noted before, the FDA has few teeth. Hopefully the FTC will step in.

    But the FDA can shut down the CBD scam, as CBD is a medicine, long before it was a “supplement” of the scammers and shysters.

  • markbroussard

    Member
    April 17, 2017 at 3:37 am

    I think the confusion here is the source of the CBD oil.  There are two types:

    (1) CBD derived from Medical Marijuana which will contain THC

    (2) CBD derived from commercial hemp which will not contain THC, can be used in cosmetics and is legal in all 50 states.

    @Dcan … if you need a referral to a reputable supplier of industrial hemp-derived CDB, drop an e-mail to me.

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