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  • Is the Dynamic MiniPro “Blender Tool” attachment a homogenizer ⁉️

    Posted by emma1985 on June 10, 2021 at 4:20 am

    So I’ve gone down a bit of a rabbit hole and I’m trying to determine if the Dynamic MiniPro “Blender Tool,” which is universally advertised as a “homogenizer” and seemingly considered by many of you to be one, is, in fact, a homogenizer.

    Here are some pictures of actual homogenizers. They all look something like this. These are from Ika and Omni.


    This is my homogenizer:

    As you can see, there is always a hole on the shaft.

    The Dynamic MiniPro Blender Tool looks like this.


    This looks more like a mini immersion blender to me.

    I’m not happy with my homogenizer. It doesn’t work at all with products that have viscosity. So I ordered the Blender Tool attachment for my MiniPro.

    Am I missing something here? I suppose I don’t even care if the Blender Tool isn’t a proper homogenizer as long as it gives me the stability and the lack of air incorporation that I get with my homogenizer. I’m just trying to understand.

    Feedback appreciated and please forgive me if this is a ridiculous question and I’m just being totally dense or something. 

    Thank you.

    squinny replied 1 year, 1 month ago 7 Members · 15 Replies
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  • ggpetrov

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 4:46 am

    This attachment is homogenizer by itself. There are different homogenizing attachments by their design. MiniPro is targeted as a food homogenizer, but it can be used by homecrafters. I think, the homogenizer take place at the beginning of the emulsification, where the viscosity is still low. After that you should switch to a propeller mixer, until cooldown. I think that’s the proper workflow to make an emulsion. It doesn’t make sense to use a homogenizer in high viscosity emulsions.

  • suswang8

    Member
    June 14, 2021 at 11:17 pm
    It’s a homogenizer — keep in mind that even if you go to IKA’s Web site, you will see that some of their homogenizer tips look different than others.
    Keep in mind you can only use the Dynamic up to a certain viscosity (I forget the max, to be honest), and I think the max suggested run time is 90 seconds.  The other downside (for some) is that the head is quite big comparatively, so you would struggle to use it for quantities under about 200ml.
    Which homogenizer do you have now? 
  • emma1985

    Member
    June 15, 2021 at 3:00 am

    suswang8 said:

    It’s a homogenizer — keep in mind that even if you go to IKA’s Web site, you will see that some of their homogenizer tips look different than others.
    Keep in mind you can only use the Dynamic up to a certain viscosity (I forget the max, to be honest), and I think the max suggested run time is 90 seconds.  The other downside (for some) is that the head is quite big comparatively, so you would struggle to use it for quantities under about 200ml.
    Which homogenizer do you have now? 

    FSH-2A is the one I have.

    So update on the MiniPro homogenizer attachment.

    It’s absolutely great. 

    It still struggles with higher viscosity, but if I adjust for viscosity with angle of insertion and speed setting, it still works.

    Certainly able to accommodate viscosity MUCH MUCH better than the FSH-2A.

    I can even use it at very low speed for up to 60 seconds as a stirrer (I do this occasionally when I don’t feel like getting out my overhead stirrer, the MiniPro is capable of working really really slowly at speed settings 1 and 2, it essentially becomes low shear.)

    It also introduces less air into emulsions when compared with the regular immersion blender attachment that the MiniPro comes with.

    It emulsifies an emulsion very quickly.

    And I feel like I get whiter emulsions.

    It works just fine with 100 g batches, though of course I do experience some product waste. 100 g is usually my batch size while I’m working on product development.

    So even though it was more expensive than the MiniPro itself, I think it’s totally worth it. 

    I’m going to test the stability of an emulsion made with the homogenizer attachment vs one made with the immersion blender attachment using a centrifuge. I will keep you guys posted.

    The last thing I want to test is if I can make a COMPLETELY CLEAR gel with the homogenizer attachment. When I use gelling agents with immersion blender, for example, it introduces air bubbles which makes the product opaque.

    I can make a pretty clear gel using the FSH-2A, but I’d like to just put it away since I won’t be using it for emulsions now that I have the MiniPro homogenizer.

  • emma1985

    Member
    June 15, 2021 at 3:07 am

    ggpetrov said:

    This attachment is homogenizer by itself. There are different homogenizing attachments by their design. MiniPro is targeted as a food homogenizer, but it can be used by homecrafters. I think, the homogenizer take place at the beginning of the emulsification, where the viscosity is still low. After that you should switch to a propeller mixer, until cooldown. I think that’s the proper workflow to make an emulsion. It doesn’t make sense to use a homogenizer in high viscosity emulsions.

    Yes, that is the proper workflow, but the MiniPro is capable of working as a low shear device at speed settings 1 and 2 (it’s what makes it super unique amongst immersion blenders.)

    Sometimes I don’t feel like getting out my propeller so I’ll just use the MiniPro in cool down at low speed.

    See my response above if you’re interested in my experience with the MiniPro homogenizer attachment so far. 

    Thanks for the comment!!

  • graillotion

    Member
    June 15, 2021 at 5:15 am

    I would not leave home without that combo.

    And now…. They are sold as a combination in the US finally!!!  Why did that take so long????

  • suswang8

    Member
    June 15, 2021 at 7:07 pm
    @Graillotion   Jeez.  I wish they were sold as a combo many months ago when I had been shopping around. 
    @emma1985   I ended up getting an OCIS (plus Dremel), which I do like, in part because I really don’t see how you can use the Dynamic (with Blender Tool) for 100g without introducing a lot of air, but I’m glad (and a bit amazed :) ) you are able to pull it off.  I do feel like the Dynamic has a head that for some reason is extremely powerful/efficient — more so than the OCIS — perhaps mostly due to the size/shape.
  • emma1985

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    June 16, 2021 at 4:13 am

    suswang8 said:

    @Graillotion   Jeez.  I wish they were sold as a combo many months ago when I had been shopping around. 
    @emma1985   I ended up getting an OCIS (plus Dremel), which I do like, in part because I really don’t see how you can use the Dynamic (with Blender Tool) for 100g without introducing a lot of air, but I’m glad (and a bit amazed :) ) you are able to pull it off.  I do feel like the Dynamic has a head that for some reason is extremely powerful/efficient — more so than the OCIS — perhaps mostly due to the size/shape.

    Here’s a picture of the emulsion I made last night.

    A few air bubbles but nothing that is a deal breaker for me, and I’m super intolerant of visible air bubbles.

    I think it would be even better with larger batches, so I’m going to increase my test batch size to 150 g.

  • graillotion

    Member
    June 16, 2021 at 5:07 am

    suswang8 said:

     I really don’t see how you can use the Dynamic (with Blender Tool) for 100g without introducing a lot of air, but I’m glad (and a bit amazed :) ) you are able to pull it off.  I do feel like the Dynamic has a head that for some reason is extremely powerful/efficient — more so than the OCIS — perhaps mostly due to the size/shape.

    Naturally the ability to keep the head submerged is directly correlated to the shape and size of the beaker you are using.  

    The following link will take you to a beaker that is perfectly matched to the Blender tool.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L0JBZPI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I always make 150gm test batches, so I have plenty of room to spare.  Even when I am working with just the water phase….The head is completely immersed.  I use a lot of powders in my water phase, so the mini-pro sits in the water phase through out the heating process, giving it a number of spins.

  • emma1985

    Member
    June 16, 2021 at 6:33 am

    suswang8 said:

     I really don’t see how you can use the Dynamic (with Blender Tool) for 100g without introducing a lot of air, but I’m glad (and a bit amazed :) ) you are able to pull it off.  I do feel like the Dynamic has a head that for some reason is extremely powerful/efficient — more so than the OCIS — perhaps mostly due to the size/shape.

    Naturally the ability to keep the head submerged is directly correlated to the shape and size of the beaker you are using.  

    The following link will take you to a beaker that is perfectly matched to the Blender tool.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L0JBZPI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I always make 150gm test batches, so I have plenty of room to spare.  Even when I am working with just the water phase….The head is completely immersed.  I use a lot of powders in my water phase, so the mini-pro sits in the water phase through out the heating process, giving it a number of spins.

    Good point!! I don’t know how I forgot to mention that. Appropriate beaker size/shape makes a huge difference.

    I love these ..

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006VYY09Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_XCGV9385MF12VDHCP3NX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

    Both the 250 mL and 500 mL work just fine with the MiniPro.

  • graillotion

    Member
    June 16, 2021 at 6:53 am

    emma1985 said:

    suswang8 said:

     I really don’t see how you can use the Dynamic (with Blender Tool) for 100g without introducing a lot of air, but I’m glad (and a bit amazed :) ) you are able to pull it off.  I do feel like the Dynamic has a head that for some reason is extremely powerful/efficient — more so than the OCIS — perhaps mostly due to the size/shape.

    Naturally the ability to keep the head submerged is directly correlated to the shape and size of the beaker you are using.  

    The following link will take you to a beaker that is perfectly matched to the Blender tool.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01L0JBZPI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I always make 150gm test batches, so I have plenty of room to spare.  Even when I am working with just the water phase….The head is completely immersed.  I use a lot of powders in my water phase, so the mini-pro sits in the water phase through out the heating process, giving it a number of spins.

    Good point!! I don’t know how I forgot to mention that. Appropriate beaker size/shape makes a huge difference.

    I love these ..

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006VYY09Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_XCGV9385MF12VDHCP3NX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

    Both the 250 mL and 500 mL work just fine with the MiniPro.

    Actually…that was the brand I used to use…..but was going broke (hehehe) with as many of them that I cracked.  Switched to the other brand…which cost a couple bucks more….and have yet to crack one.

    Also…. on the brand I linked….the bottom is much flatter, which gives the top heavy MiniPro a more stable platform when operating.

  • domicanica

    Member
    June 17, 2021 at 12:09 am

    @emma1985 I have the dynamic minipro and i bought that exact beaker because I saw someone in another thread say that the minipro fits perfectly in the beaker, but the beaker is too narrow for the machine. are you using the standard attachment that it comes with?

  • emma1985

    Member
    June 17, 2021 at 12:15 am

    @emma1985 I have the dynamic minipro and i bought that exact beaker because I saw someone in another thread say that the minipro fits perfectly in the beaker, but the beaker is too narrow for the machine. are you using the standard attachment that it comes with?

    I have used the regular attachment that it comes with many times with that beaker. Try rotating the MiniPro slightly, it only fits at a certain “angle.” Try rotating and inserting until it fits. 

  • domicanica

    Member
    June 17, 2021 at 2:45 am

    emma1985 said:

    @emma1985 I have the dynamic minipro and i bought that exact beaker because I saw someone in another thread say that the minipro fits perfectly in the beaker, but the beaker is too narrow for the machine. are you using the standard attachment that it comes with?

    I have used the regular attachment that it comes with many times with that beaker. Try rotating the MiniPro slightly, it only fits at a certain “angle.” Try rotating and inserting until it fits. 

    This is so strange, I’m not getting it to fit at all. And the width of the beaker is about the width of the end piece of the attachment as well. Maybe something is off with the beaker, I don’t know…

  • KMRCSMiami

    Member
    March 7, 2023 at 9:35 am

    If you’re able to splurge, I would recommend an IKA or Silverson homogenizer for two very important reasons. #1- RPM speed control. The speed/duration/temperature of homogenization affects the final outcome. I would prefer for you to have more control and know the exact RPM you’re using, etc. If you’re building a manufacturing protocol, knowing the exact RPM is important (i.e. mix phase A at 1500 RPM for 5 min at 65C). But for DIY or when you’re trying to be economical, this is OK. #2- Cleanliness. The IKA and Silverson instruments completely disassemble, so you’re able to clean every nook and crannie. Its amazing how much product is hiding inside my IKA when I think its clean. But if you do a good job with the reference you shared here, should be OK.

    These are just my preferences. They in no way mean its better or cleaner, just a preference. What you have here is OK.

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  • squinny

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    March 10, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    HI there is there a link where you can buy the mini pro homogenizer in Australia?

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