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  • jemolian

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    July 19, 2021 at 9:22 am
    On the topic….OF using esters as moisturizers….just so I can tuck this into my data banks….what lite esters also do double duty….and do a little moisturizing on the side? 

    @Graillotion maybe just on the additional moisturization side with data available for comparison. 

    Also Sensolene, not sure if you consider it lite but it broke me out over a few days. 

  • helenhelen

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    July 19, 2021 at 11:37 am

    Hey….I came across something that really has me puzzled.  This oil….seems to lubricate skin at a crazy level…both in what feels like moisturizing…and durability….I mean hours….and hours….

    https://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/products/carrier-oils/tamanu-carrier-oil-virgin-vietnam.html

    Now keep in mind…and you can check with @Pharma on this one….(it might be a nut oil).  But when I was kidding about making an industrial strength hand cream….this immediately came to mind.

    Couple of notes….they sell several versions….and I have gotten I think 3….and this is the ONLY one that behaves in that manner.  It also has a reasonable amount of color and scent…(not awesome in my opinion…hehehe.)  I use this in a pain cream that has a VERY strong scent…so it does not come through. 

    But if you are having trouble finding a natural oil…that seriously does something….worth a look.

    Nothing super exciting in the fatty acid profile…just another Oleic on paper….but on the skin….hmmmn!

    Thanks for the tip! I will try it out one day. Everything my skin like seems to be strong smelling or strong coloured.

  • helenhelen

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    July 19, 2021 at 11:47 am

    RedCoast said:
    I intended to reply earlier, but life caught up with me. xD
    Keep in mind that highly pigmented oils don’t necessarily pigment the skin if you dilute it enough and add the right polymers if needed… we only apply lotions thinly enough anyway (at least, I hope so!) and our skin does have color, so it would usually  “disappear”. I’m fairly pale (Fitzpatrick II) and I noticed a slight orange coloration on my face at 10% concentration.

    RedCoast said:

    abierose said:

    Would adding Lauryl Laurate help counteract that yellow color? It tends to make things ultra white…🤷‍♀️

    I used myristyl myristate at the time, and it did “whiten” it a bit… I didn’t experiment with the coloration too much, because I liked the orange/golden color! Montanov L could help if the orange bothers you too much.
    If you happen to get a “super pigmented” batch of sea buckthorn oil, you will likely needreduce the percentage or change up your other ingredients a bit.

    It’s not so much the colouration of the skin, but more the colour of the emulsion - it just looks so much more “refreshing” when it’s off-white!

  • abierose

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    July 19, 2021 at 6:32 pm

    RedCoast said:
    I intended to reply earlier, but life caught up with me. xD
    Keep in mind that highly pigmented oils don’t necessarily pigment the skin if you dilute it enough and add the right polymers if needed… we only apply lotions thinly enough anyway (at least, I hope so!) and our skin does have color, so it would usually  “disappear”. I’m fairly pale (Fitzpatrick II) and I noticed a slight orange coloration on my face at 10% concentration.

    RedCoast said:

    abierose said:

    Would adding Lauryl Laurate help counteract that yellow color? It tends to make things ultra white…🤷‍♀️

    I used myristyl myristate at the time, and it did “whiten” it a bit… I didn’t experiment with the coloration too much, because I liked the orange/golden color! Montanov L could help if the orange bothers you too much.
    If you happen to get a “super pigmented” batch of sea buckthorn oil, you will likely needreduce the percentage or change up your other ingredients a bit.

    It’s not so much the colouration of the skin, but more the colour of the emulsion - it just looks so much more “refreshing” when it’s off-white!

    I tend to agree, particularly when we’re talking face creams/lotions…I think in general consumers prefer a white or off white product for face but body lotions can go either way…in fact, as a consumer…with a marketing background…who now makes skincare products (😆) I think you can pretty much get away with any color imaginable if you scent it appropriately and in a way that “matches” that color….for example, a body lotion that was orange would be better received by consumers if it is scented with an orange fragrance…or peach fragrance….as opposed to just being an unscented lotion that is the color orange…
    Anyway, I’m sure none of this is a new concept, but maybe worth mentioning 😊

  • graillotion

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    July 20, 2021 at 5:19 am

    jemolian said:

    On the topic….OF using esters as moisturizers….just so I can tuck this into my data banks….what lite esters also do double duty….and do a little moisturizing on the side? 

    @Graillotion maybe just on the additional moisturization side with data available for comparison. 

    Also Sensolene, not sure if you consider it lite but it broke me out over a few days. 

    Thank you.  I am using both in the hand cream…so maybe I have that area maxed out already. :) 

    I did have to take the level of Polyisobutene down to .6%, due to its shiny aspect…but I have plenty of other goodies helping out in that area.

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