Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating General Does heating destroy Aloe Vera’s properties?

  • OldPerry

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    May 31, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    @MarkBroussard - No offense meant. I did read most of the article, reviewed a few of the references and don’t disagree with the author’s conclusion “In conclusion, the use of aloe vera gel or its components for the treatment of a variety of conditions and diseases needs further clinical evidence through well-designed studies with defined aloe extracts and matching placebo controls.”

    I would add that just because Dr Grudmann has a good academic pedigree doesn’t mean he doesn’t peddle in woo. Sadly, naturopathy (which is a completely fake area of study) has edged it’s way into legitimate academic institutions. The field of medicine and science has suffered because of it. If Dr Grudmann chooses to align himself with charlatans, it makes it difficult for me to take him seriously. 

  • OldPerry

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    May 31, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    @aperson - Your assertion “I have the best evidence in the world.  I use it.  when I get burned” demonstrates that you and I do not share compatible philosophies about knowledge and truth.  

    Science isn’t a perfect system, but it is far superior to any other system created for figuring out what’s true. 

  • Microformulation

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    May 31, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    I have the best evidence in the world.  I use it.  when I get burned
    I have a rock that I keep in my pocket when I am in the woods. I have never been attacked by a Leprechaun so it is a proven Leprechaun repellent.
    I have the best evidence in the world.  I use it.  When I walk in the woods.
  • MarkBroussard

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    May 31, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    No offense taken, Perry.  I ‘m just pointing out that you can’t judge a book by its cover.  

    Dr. Grunderman may have been paid as a consultant to compile all of the available scientific information on Aloe Vera for the journal.  He does not appear to be peddling in woo, he just compiled the information from what I can tell.  You will note that his conclusion is that there is no valid scientific evidence to support that Aloe Vera has any significant effect which is exactly the same conclusion reached by your source of information. 

  • OldPerry

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    May 31, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    You raise some great points. My previous assertions were probably unfair.

    I’ve been on the Dr Oz show, but that doesn’t mean that I support the bogus info he peddles.

  • aperson

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    May 31, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    @aperson - Your assertion “I have the best evidence in the world.  I use it.  when I get burned” demonstrates that you and I do not share compatible philosophies about knowledge and truth.  

    Could be.  I learn from everything.

    Science isn’t a perfect system, but it is far superior to any other system created for figuring out what’s true. 

    No.

    I wrote a longer reply, more eloquent, full of interesting facts, real-world examples, valuable insight into the history of science and the scientific method. 

    But this ^^, is what I posted. 

    Thats how far, we’ve regressed in the West.  And, in my lifetime.

  • Dr Catherine Pratt

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    June 1, 2018 at 2:34 am

    Wow Perry you are a superstar! the Dr Oz show? Why is he called Dr OZ? is he from Aus? With regard to the homeopathic  healing powers, a pharmacist down the road told me she is a homeopath?? How can you be a pharmacist and a homeopath, its opposite methods of thinking. I asked for a stress relief product and I bought her homeopathic one, when I got home found out it was full of ethanol. Apparently all the mothers at sport days in winter down this homeopathic medicine. They are all just legal drunks! Hilarious..

  • belassi

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    June 1, 2018 at 3:04 am

    I was just watching episode 5 of series 3 of Ambulance. This series follows ambulance crews as they respond to emergencies in the UK. One case was scalding caused by bringing boiled food out of the microwave. I was interested to see that they used an aloe vera face mask on the patient. (UK NHS)

  • MarkBroussard

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    June 1, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    Dr. Oz … he was hauled before the US Senate not too long ago and forced to address the issue that he often never tests or personally uses the products he hawks on TV or the info he gives out on his show.

    He’s a TV Quacktitioner on par with “Dr. Phil.”

    He’s called Dr. Oz because there’s nothing behind the curtain! … LOL!

    But, getting on his show can give you lots of exposure … which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

  • Dr Catherine Pratt

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    June 2, 2018 at 4:25 am
    Very witty indeed!
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