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  • Dissolving Trehalose

    Posted by ggpetrov on August 30, 2024 at 8:01 am

    Hello everyone. Back in the threads I’ve read some of you use the Trehalose your products. I am curious how and when to incorporate the Trehalose in my lotions. In my first try I’ve put it in the cool down phase (aprox. 50 Degrees) at 3%. It’s sticky, I guess 3% is too much, but I was wondering, what is your experience. Thanks in advance.

    Graillotion replied 2 months, 3 weeks ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Graillotion

    Member
    August 31, 2024 at 1:21 am

    It is not heat sensitive…just add to your water phase up front.

    As with any ingredient…try it neat…. 97% water 3% trehalose. Evaluate and adjust.

    I use it at 3% in a deo formula…less in all others. The deo has no other sticky stuff like oils or humectants….so no issue at all. Generally I use betaine instead of trehalose in all other formulas.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Graillotion.
  • ggpetrov

    Member
    August 31, 2024 at 4:30 am

    I was wondering, if I put it in the hot water phase (90 degrees) - this eventually can brake the bonds between the two monomers, so it will reduce to glucose…or I am wrong?

    • Graillotion

      Member
      August 31, 2024 at 8:21 pm

      Just out of curiosity, why the 90C?

      I thought my 85C was the top of the game…with my love of M 202 and behenyl alcohol.

      Aloha.

      • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Graillotion.
  • ketchito

    Member
    August 31, 2024 at 6:14 am

    It says its melting point is around 200°C (and the boiling at around 400°C), so unless there’s some reactant to cleave a bond within its structure, it should be fine to heat it in the water phase at 90°C.

  • Marika

    Member
    August 31, 2024 at 6:44 am

    I love Trehalose, once tried it and now have it in all my creams, heat it in the water phase. 3% is too much, no wonder it feels sticky. I add 1%, but I’d suggest starting with 0,5%.

  • ggpetrov

    Member
    September 1, 2024 at 1:54 am

    Thanks for the answers. Yesterday I’ve tried to put it in the hot water phase at 2%. Everything is fine, and generally I don’t feel any stickiness.

    Regarding the Betaine, I have used it few years ago (Glycine betaine), but I found it’s very hard to keep in my house. Since it very hydroscopic it turns in to a lumps quickly.

    • Graillotion

      Member
      September 1, 2024 at 3:00 am

      My lab is far more humid than yours….Yup I live in a rainforest! 😂 It is that exact aspect…that makes it such a wonderful ingredient…. can you imagine what it is doing on your skin? (attracting moisture)

      The key of course is…. the very moment you open the bag….you drop in some silica packets….and replace them every month or so. Sometimes it takes a little effort….should you desire to create the magic. If I can make betaine remain useful in a forest that gets 300 inches of rain a year, and humidity that never drops below 90%…. You can make it work as well. 😉

    • Graillotion

      Member
      September 4, 2024 at 5:01 pm

      Let me show you three slides. Took betaine, and trehalose…. and just set them out in a room…. overnight. You can see the difference in the third slide…that was the next morning. NOTHING added….just left out in a room with relative humidity in the mid 70% range. Enjoy…..and then buy your betaine. 😉 Slide one is start of test, slide two is after a few hours, and slide 3 is the next morning. Aloha @ggpetrov

      • Graillotion

        Member
        September 4, 2024 at 5:05 pm

        Please understand….I view these ingredients as osmolytes, and don’t necessarily view them as strong humectants, albeit one of them is doing a pretty dang good job of it. Hence, I do not discard the trehalose as not having value…. Simply the test lended itself to lauding the humectancy of the betaine.

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