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    Posted by natasha.acendra on April 11, 2025 at 10:07 am

    Hi!

    As of lately i’ve been formulating a hair conditioner. So far the conditioning effect, the viscosity and the texture is really good, the thing is that i’m not feeling it “stick” to my hair as much as commercial conditioners do. I have noticed that i have to use twice as much conditioner as i normally would (with a store bought conditioner) because it isn’t really “adhering” to my hair. My formula has quite a nice viscosity to it, it is thick whilst also beign fluid, so i don’t understand why i’m having problems to really make it sparse evently throught my hair. And i noticed that it isn’t because i don’t have enough cationic charge, because even after i tested it using my ”normal” amount it did an amazing job detangling my hair (and i have to say my hair gets tangled A LOT), so i think it really is missing one ingredient that can make it cremier? stickier?

    This is my formula, any help/recommendations you could give me would be amazing!!

    * My guar gum is quaternized, the conditionize 37E is Polyquaternium-37 and my silicone alternative is Hydrogenated ethylhexyl olivate (and) hydrogenated olive oil unsaponifiables. *

    MaidenOrangeBlossom replied 17 hours, 14 minutes ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • MaidenOrangeBlossom

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    April 11, 2025 at 8:55 pm

    Off the top of my head, the lipid profile is sparse. Fats tend to stick. I personally have never been able to successfully deploy guar in my conditioning formulas but everyone else has so I am not sure of the entire formula. My conditioners stick like a mother. Its literally the best conditioner so I keep the formula top secret. However, in comparison I use far more lipids. About 16%, its thick enough when I melt the bar down. The BTMS level looks good but you can even lower it 1-2 percent and add a secondary fatty acid. I avoid silicones so I don’t know how it works in your formula but I’ve been able to achieve similar shine with cupuacu butter and glycerin.

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