Help formulate a better hair mask

ZahraZahra Member
in Hair
Hello, I have a problem making a hair mask after a bath. Thank you for your help
Because it is good when I apply it to unpainted hair, but it gives a little softness when I apply it to damaged hair.

Ingredient
Water 70.74%
Stevostearyl alcohol 5.08%
Glycerin 5.08%
Coconut oil 1.69%
Macadamia oil 0.860%
Argan oil 0.865%
Steriumonium chloride 1.04%
Isothiazolinone 3.3%
Citric acid 0.09%
Hydrolyzed keratin protein 7.78%

Comments

  • ZahraZahra Member
    Of course, I think I should increase the amount of cationic surfactant and glycerin and the amount of oils a little. He answers me

  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.
  • ketchitoketchito Member
    @Zahra I'd remove Glycerin, add some silicone and replace your cationic surfactant for one with longer chain (like Behentrimonium chloride) at a bit higher level.
  • ZahraZahra Member
    edited March 16
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.

    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%
    Hello
    The problem I have is that when I turn these ratios up and down it does not work properly on damaged hair. I do not know exactly what percentage of surfactant to add to a hair mask or conditioner after a bath. Because the amount of surfactants causes more than 5% adhesion or I increase glycerin Or I have a problem with formaldehyde-free creatine
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.
    Adding this preservative to some materials would cause contamination, so I used this amount
    Thankful

  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.
    Excuse me, where can I find a list of the permissible percentages of substances used in formulations?
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    CIR-safety.org

    or https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eur/2009/1223/annex/V - Preservatives

    Ingredients in general for the EU - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eur/2009/1223/contents
    Learn to formulate cosmetics
  • ZahraZahra Member
    edited March 1
    Hello, thank you very much I hope I can
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.

    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%

    Hello

     The problem I have is that when I turn these ratios up and down it does not work properly on damaged hair.
    I do not know exactly what percentage of surfactant to add to a hair mask or conditioner after a bath.
    Because the amount of surfactants causes more than 5% adhesion or I increase glycerin
    Or I have a problem with formaldehyde-free creatine

    Yes when you change the ratios you get different results. See what you like the most
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.

    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%

    Hello

     The problem I have is that when I turn these ratios up and down it does not work properly on damaged hair.
    I do not know exactly what percentage of surfactant to add to a hair mask or conditioner after a bath.
    Because the amount of surfactants causes more than 5% adhesion or I increase glycerin
    Or I have a problem with formaldehyde-free creatine

    Yes when you change the ratios you get different results. See what you like the most
    Hi thanks
    I had a question when I say that the percentage of surfactant like steerium chloride is 5%.
    In a solitary concentrate
    When several cationic surfactants are added, the permissible percentages of each should be poured or the same as 5?Hi thanks
    I had a question when I say that the percentage of surfactant like cetermonium chloride is 5%.
    In a solitary concentrate
    When several cationic surfactants are added, the permissible percentages of each should be poured or the same as 5?
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%.

    Abdullah said:
    What is the problem? You should not use that preservative more than 0.1%

    Hello

     The problem I have is that when I turn these ratios up and down it does not work properly on damaged hair.
    I do not know exactly what percentage of surfactant to add to a hair mask or conditioner after a bath.
    Because the amount of surfactants causes more than 5% adhesion or I increase glycerin
    Or I have a problem with formaldehyde-free creatine

    Yes when you change the ratios you get different results. See what you like the most
    Hi thanks
    I had a question when I say that the percentage of surfactant like steerium chloride is 5%.
    In a solitary concentrate
    When several cationic surfactants are added, the permissible percentages of each should be poured or the same as 5?Hi thanks
    I had a question when I say that the percentage of surfactant like cetermonium chloride is 5%.
    In a solitary concentrate
    When several cationic surfactants are added, the permissible percentages of each should be poured or the same as 5?
    I think the uper limit of Steriumonium chloride is leave in product is 0.25%.

    If you add several surfactants you can add each one to their upper limit.
  • DavidDavid Member
    Isothiazolinone 3.3%! The maximum safe concentration in ready for use preparation of methyl-Isothiazolinone in EU is 0,0015%. Actually the formulation above is more dangerous than applying 100% preservative Euxyl K100 or Kathon CG on your skin!
    www.cosmeticlabsolutions.com
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Hello
    Can anyone really guide me through the construction process?
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Several people did guide you on what to add or remove or change the percentage. 

    Did you make the changes as they guided you? 

    What was the result? 
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    Several people did guide you on what to add or remove or change the percentage. 

    Did you make the changes as they guided you? 

    What was the result? 
    Hi, thanks
    Yes, thank you all
    The result was somewhat good and I also reduced the amount of isothiazolinone.
    But the results are different on each hair. I think it depends on the sex of the hair and the dryness and fat of the hair.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 
    Hi thanks
    In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.
    I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.
    How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Where are you from? 

    I don't know if it is because of problem in my English or your English has problem too because i don't understand a lot of what you say correctly. 

    Ask your supplier how much active surfactant does it have.

    You may need a non-ionic surfactant too. 

    And I don't know how are you homogenizing a 60ml batch. 
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    Where are you from? 

    I don't know if it is because of problem in my English or your English has problem too because i don't understand a lot of what you say correctly. 

    Ask your supplier how much active surfactant does it have.

    You may need a non-ionic surfactant too. 

    And I don't know how are you homogenizing a 60ml batch. 
    Hi thanks
    My point is clear
    What field are you in?
    Because I think you did not understand my problems correctly.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 
    Hi thanks
    In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.
    I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.
    How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?
    Yes i didn't understand your clear point clearly. 

    Do you understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use but don't know how to convert it to grams in a 60 grams batch?

    Or you don't understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use?
    If this is your problem, the usage rage is generally 0.2-2%. 
    Start from 1%. If it is more conditioning, reduce it. If it is less then increase it until you find what you like. 
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 
    Hi thanks
    In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.
    I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.
    How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?
    Yes i didn't understand your clear point clearly. 

    Do you understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use but don't know how to convert it to grams in a 60 grams batch?

    Or you don't understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use?
    If this is your problem, the usage rage is generally 0.2-2%. 
    Start from 1%. If it is more conditioning, reduce it. If it is less then increase it until you find what you like. 
    Hi thanks
    Yes, I know what percentage I should use. But from small to large, I use the same range, for example, from 1 to 5 percent
    I share.
    Within the limits allowed by the European Union.
    But I do not know exactly what surfactants I use
    In total, what percentage should I use for this amount?
    Yes thank you
    I also have trouble making a hair straightener that requires a total of what percentage of cationic surfactants and silicones to use per 100 grams.
    I have a permissible range of percentages, but when I use silicones a little more than surfactants, it does not give the desired result. I even change their value.
    I set the aqueous phase and the oil phase to 75-80.
    After a while, I mix them.
    To make a hair mask or
     Hair straighteners
    I go through this process.
    I do not know the process
    Hair straightening is right or I have to go some other way.
    Of course, I also use other substances such as protein, emulsifier, thickener and moisturizer.
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 
    Hi thanks
    In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.
    I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.
    How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?
    Yes i didn't understand your clear point clearly. 

    Do you understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use but don't know how to convert it to grams in a 60 grams batch?

    Or you don't understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use?
    If this is your problem, the usage rage is generally 0.2-2%. 
    Start from 1%. If it is more conditioning, reduce it. If it is less then increase it until you find what you like. 
    Hi thanks
    Yes, I know what percentage I should use. But from small to large, I use the same range, for example, from 1 to 5 percent
    I share.
    Within the limits allowed by the European Union.
    But I do not know exactly what surfactants I use
    In total, what percentage should I use for this amount?
    Yes thank you
    I also have trouble making a hair straightener that requires a total of what percentage of cationic surfactants and silicones to use per 100 grams.
    I have a permissible range of percentages, but when I use silicones a little more than surfactants, it does not give the desired result. I even change their value.
    I set the aqueous phase and the oil phase to 75-80.
    After a while, I mix them.
    To make a hair mask or
     Hair straighteners
    I go through this process.
    I do not know the process
    Hair straightening is right or I have to go some other way.
    Of course, I also use other substances such as protein, emulsifier, thickener and moisturizer.
    I used non-ionic surfactant.
    For example ceteareth_20
    I wanted to use other non-ionic surfactants as well
    trideceth_12
    Because it is used in most hair straighteners
    Of course, there are other compounds that may be helpful.
    Like formaldehyde
    But I do not want to use it.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

    Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 


  • ZahraZahra Member
    Abdullah said:
    Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

    Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 


    Hi, I have no problem with calculations.
    Yes I know
    1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

    Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 


    Hi, I have no problem with calculations.
    Yes I know
    1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g
    You do not understand my questions correctly.
    Thank you for guiding me so far.
    But my questions are something else
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Zahra said:
    Zahra said:
    Abdullah said:
    Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

    Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 


    Hi, I have no problem with calculations.
    Yes I know
    1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g
    You do not understand my questions correctly.
    Thank you for guiding me so far.
    But my questions are something else
    Thank you for your help
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Sorry that i didn't understand your question.
  • AdamnfinemanAdamnfineman Member
    Zahra said:
    Because it is good when I apply it to unpainted hair, but it gives a little softness when I apply it to damaged hair.
    What do you mean when you say unpainted hair?
    Lab Assistant to a Cosmetic Formulator at a contract manufacturing company. New to the field and willing to learn.
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Zahra said:
    Because it is good when I apply it to unpainted hair, but it gives a little softness when I apply it to damaged hair.
    What do you mean when you say unpainted hair?
    Hi thanks
    I mean natural hair.
  • ZaraZara Member
    edited March 19
    Adamnfineman,

    Unpainted hair, I think she means the virgin or undyed hair. :)
  • ZahraZahra Member
    Hi thanks
          Sorry I wrote it wrong
    I mean
    Undyed hair
    I did not correct my sentence
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