Getting a Hydrophilic Powder into an anhydrous system

I am a formulator of a Goat Milk skincare brand. We use powdered goat milk in everything. We have some products like lip balm that are anhydrous, and we can only use a small percentage of the hydrophilic powder, and sometimes a small granular will come about during application, but its "OK" for these stick products. Now I am challenged to get this into a Balm with a creamy texture. Any idea on how to do this? I'm just concerned of the granules being much more obvious. HELP


  • MaydayMayday Member
    Could you source goat milk fat instead of goat milk? Then it would mix easily and you've included the most important part.

    Could you rehydrate goat milk with water and/or ethanol and then evaporate it out at low heat? Though the ethanol could curdle the milk and residual water could require preservative.

    (Disclaimer: I am a novice and don't have any practical experience in this area.)
    ⚠️ I have a lot of ideas, but not much experience! Please keep this in mind when reading my suggestions. ⚠️
  • CedarSCedarS Member
    You ought to be able to create a butter, a heavier emulsion, but then it would not be anhydrous. Must it be completely anhydrous? 

    The other option, as Mayday mentions, would be to source goat's milk butter (you can make butter from goat milk, I have, although it's not as straightforward as cow's milk as it is naturally homogenous) and use that. 
  • Cafe33Cafe33 Member
    I am attempting a similar formulation blending HA in a solid balm like wax. I have stumbled on Olivem 2090 and will be attempting a W/O. Maybe that is something you can look into. 
  • CarrieCarrie Member
    Thank you so much for your ideas! I have tried using Goat milk Butter, but the documentation for it was too limited but maybe I'll try this again and see if I can get a better supplier Thanks Mayday!.....

  • CarrieCarrie Member
    CedarS, If I stick with the Goat Milk powder, then I think I am going to go with a heavier emulsion, will make a w/o emulsion, it definitely does not have to be completely anhydrous, but it is preferred.

  • CarrieCarrie Member

    Cafe33 Are you blending the powder form of HA in the Balm?? I will look into the Olivem 2090, I have tried Acticire from Gatoffasse to get a few water soluble extracts into a balm and that worked great, didn't do so much for my goat milk slurry though. 

  • Cafe33Cafe33 Member
    I am imagining forming a w/o emulsion using an HA and Sodium Lactate aqueous solution into a balm mixture which includes candelilla wax, cetyl alcohol, esters and oils among other things. I am hoping the Olivem 2090 will allow me to do so. Formulator sample shop carries the ingredient so I will order it soon; however as an international customer, I will have to be patient.  
  • PattsiPattsi Member
    force it in like this?

    Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, Castor Oil, BTMS, Rose Hip Oil, Evening Primrose, Kaolin Clay, Zinc Oxide, Goat Milk Powder, Coconut Flour,Goat Milk Powder, Vitamin B3, Dehydrated Banana, Aloe, Matcha Green Tea, Willow Bark, Moringa Powder.

    Don't know is it a good idea or not.
  • czkldczkld Member

    you might find this video helpful.
  • SylSyl Member
    @czkld, thank you for the video.
  • Are you using milk as claim ingredient and because your company name has milk in it or it has some benefit?

    If for claim then you can us 0.00000000001% or lower. That is enough.

    If it has a benefit, at what percentage minimum will it have that benefit? Of percentage is high then the only way is to make emulsion.
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