What gives a dry silky feeling....30 min after application.

GraillotionGraillotion Member
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I am working on the finishing touches of a hand cream.  There is one aspect where it falls short.  30 min after application, the product has a little drag on the back of the hand, from the crosspolymers.  It goes on fine, and since I am using primarily quick hitting oils and emollients, the main presences on the skin surface, after 30 minutes, seems to be the crosspolymers.  I am only using them at 1%...so reduction is not really an option.

I would prefer something powdery and silky, 30 minutes after application.  Is this where the silicas would finish a product like this perfectly?  I need something that remains on the surface unobtrusively and dry. 

Already using behenyl alcohol, Polymethylsilsesquioxane and many other 'powdery' ingredients.

Comments

  • PattsiPattsi Member
    Maybe you should go fancy with Nylon-12.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Have you tried Dimethicone/​Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer?
  • RedCoastRedCoast Member
    edited July 2021
    Can you get your hands on LexFeel Natural yet?
  • GraillotionGraillotion Member
    Abdullah said:
    Have you tried Dimethicone/​Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer?
    Hehehe....that was the EXACT ingredient....causing the problem!

    First....I am hyper sensitive to stuff...I feel everything... This goes on great....in formula...and even neat....but after 30 minutes...seems to have something residual I associate with drag.  Only occurred after this ingredient was added.
  • RedCoastRedCoast Member
    edited July 2021
    @Graillotion I think silicas would be a good idea, based previous "mattifying" lotions I've used. All the best ones had silica in them, though I'm not sure from which supplier.
    How do you feel about kaolin? It's also a mattifying agent. Funnily enough, certain grades of kaolin qualify as skin protectants!
  • GraillotionGraillotion Member
    RedCoast said:
    Can you get your hands on LexFeel Natural yet?
    A cursory glance on the net....does not appear available in small quantities.

    I did request a sample on ULP.

  • GraillotionGraillotion Member
    RedCoast said:
    @Graillotion I think silicas would be a good idea, based previous "mattifying" lotions I've used. All the best ones had silica in them, though I'm not sure from which supplier.

    I should get my silica tomorrow.  However I will have guests for the next week....so will not have a chance to play with it....for about 10 days. :( 
  • RedCoastRedCoast Member
    edited July 2021
    I should get my silica tomorrow.  However I will have guests for the next week....so will not have a chance to play with it....for about 10 days. :( 
    Noooooo! Can you sneak a little experiment or two? Just tell them it'll only take 25 minutes! ;)
  • GraillotionGraillotion Member
    RedCoast said:
    I should get my silica tomorrow.  However I will have guests for the next week....so will not have a chance to play with it....for about 10 days. :( 
    Noooooo! Can you sneak a little experiment or two? Just tell them it'll only take 25 minutes! ;)
    You have never seen my formulas....hehehe....try two hours....start to finish! :) 

  • PattsiPattsi Member
    edited July 2021
    Why can't you down Dimethicone/​Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer to 0.5 or 0.X , is it a request from buyer?
    There is silica-coated silicone powder, can't remember the name, sorry.
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