Expensive Shampoo and Conditioner vs.

1Armand21Armand2 Member
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Hi to all!

i just want to comment about the expensive Hair Shampoo and Conditioner I bought from Aesop and the Shampoo and Conditioner I made from the formula given by sir perry and others in this forum are almost the same in quality. The only difference is in texture. 
What are your thoughts friends? 

Comments

  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    Not surprising.

    If you provide ingredient lists it might give us more to comment about.
    Learn to formulate cosmetics
  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    I remember Sir Perry said to start with simple ingredients. So this is the ingrdients that work best for me!

    Hair Shampoo 

    Distilled water
    Sodium Olefim Sulfate
    CAPB
    Polyquanterium 7
    Panthenol
    Rosemary and Aloe vera extracts
    Silk amino acid
    Crothix
    Germall plus
    Fragrance oil coconut

    Hair Conditioner

    BTMS 50
    Diemeticone
    Panthenol
    Coconut oil
    Polyquanterium 7
    Rosemary extract
    Glycerin
    Germall Plus
    Silk amino acid
    Fragrance oil coconut


  • ngarayeva001ngarayeva001 Member
    Panthenol and extracts are waste.
  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    Panthenol and extracts are waste but its there in Aesop’s ingredients! 
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    I was also trying to make gentle shampoo with APG but it was not gentle and not effective. As @Perry suggested i used SLES, CAPB and polyquaternium 10. Now i am selling it and it is the mildest Shampoo available where i live. Thanks Perry. 

    At What ratio AOS/CAPB are you using and can it be thickened with sodium chloride? 
  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    ratio is 2:1. i use crothix to thicken. have’nt tried
    sodium chloride. 
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    I use 6:1 
  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    What is AOS ?
  • justaerinjustaerin Member
    @1Armand2 ; AOS is short for Alpha Olefin Sulfonate, which is another way to refer to Sodium Olefin Sulfonate.
  • Mel55Mel55 Member
    Abdullah said:
    I was also trying to make gentle shampoo with APG but it was not gentle and not effective. As @Perry suggested i used SLES, CAPB and polyquaternium 10. Now i am selling it and it is the mildest Shampoo available where i live. Thanks Perry. 

    At What ratio AOS/CAPB are you using and can it be thickened with sodium chloride? 
    @Abdullah, could you please share that formula? I struggle with producing a basic mild shampoo for my own use.
  • Mel55Mel55 Member
    @Abdullah, sorry just to clarify, not asking for the whole formula, but I am interested in the percentage of SLeS you use as I can't seem to lower it enough in my clarifying shampoo to achieve viscosity with mildness.

    Current formula is:
    10 SLeS
    5 CAPB
    83.5 H2O
    0.5 Liquid germall plus
    Na++ q.s.

    So I just need to add 0.5 PQ10?

    Thanks,
    Mel.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    It was 6 part anionic,1part amphoteric,1part non-ionic surfactant
  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    Thank you Abdullah!
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