OGX Body Wash

BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
I review products for my 'zolinones' FB page and just today tried this one. Marketed as a sulphate free product, it has perfect viscosity, a nice pearl, good foam, great fragrance. I tried it as a hand wash and there was a distinct emollient effect. To their credit, the company is using packaging that contains recycled plastics.
If I were looking to make a body wash, this is a product I would use as a benchmark.
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  • GraillotionGraillotion Member
    edited December 2020
    What is the product?  I think OGX has many body washes?

    I am always looking for a good body wash...just for personal use.

    I can not cost effectively create body wash in Hawaii.

  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    edited December 2020
    @Belassi Your posts have been handy. I was contacted by a Vet last week with some questions. They had a dog that had some HORRIBLE adverse reactions to an Oat Shampoo. Since there is less clarity in vet ingredient decks, the deck included "freshness preservers" as a claimed ingredient. I followed it up and it was MIT/MCT.


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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    I'm very sorry to hear about this case. It is the same kind of thing that caused a huge number of complaints about Harz products. This happened to both my dogs. They were covered in lesions, open wounds. MIC or MIT has to be banned in personal or animal care products. That is my position. The evidence is overwhelming that zolinone preservatives are absolutely terrible. If any formulator here is tempted to use them, for the sake of your clients, DON'T.
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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student

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  • They make great shampoos too. Argan oil is their most known I believe. This is what I used to buy before I started dabbling in surfactants. All of them are made of Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate and CAPB. Some include SCI (looking at position at LOI I would guess at low%). I am lucky as olefin sulfonate is dirt cheap in the UK, so it’s one of my favorite anionic surfactants.
  • ngarayeva001ngarayeva001 Member
    edited December 2020
    @Belassi, what are you using for your dogs now? I wonder if parabens are safe for animals? Something like germaben II for example?
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    Interestingly, OGX used to be called "Organix" until they were sued in California for implying it was "organic".  The marketing/sales people involved in this brand used to work for my old company on brands like Tresemme and VO5.
  • @Belassi Your posts have been handy. I was contacted by a Vet last week with some questions. They had a dog that had some HORRIBLE adverse reactions to an Oat Shampoo. Since there is less clarity in vet ingredient decks, the deck included "freshness preservers" as a claimed ingredient. I followed it up and it was MIT/MCT.


    This has made me well up, and I'm not a particularly outwardly emotional person by large.
    Losing my dogs is one of my absolute worst nightmares. If stories like this don't open one's eyes to the potential issues surrounding foodstuffs and/or pet hygiene, and the products therein, I don't know what would.
    I can see why this was met with such a public following.
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    edited December 2020
    ngarayeva001 I use my own shampoo on my dogs now. (Only sodium benzoate used as preservative.) I am unable to have them bathed by a vet because the vets all use shampoos sold for veterinarian use, and none of them have any kind of ingredient list. It's disgraceful. Just one exposure to a shampoo containing MIC or MIT causes terrible damage.
    My wife bought a hand wash to use in the kitchen and I failed to check. A week later "Look at my hands!!" Yes, atopic dermatitis. Checked the product LOI. MIT in it. Threw the product in the garbage.
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  • @Belassi, after I read the story about your dogs, I only wash my cat with a mixture of SLES/CAPB and water (10% ASM) that I mix and use right away (so no preservative). Provided it’s just three ingredient  and aesthetics of shampoo is the last thing cats care about, the process does take long. I have been using OGX shampoo for many years and washed my cat with it several times. Fortunately without any problems, but I won’t take a chance anymore. Thank you for raising this important issue. Better safe than sorry. 
  • They make great shampoos too. Argan oil is their most known I believe. This is what I used to buy before I started dabbling in surfactants. All of them are made of Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate and CAPB. Some include SCI (looking at position at LOI I would guess at low%). I am lucky as olefin sulfonate is dirt cheap in the UK, so it’s one of my favorite anionic surfactants.
    Just for my curiosity....looking at that INCI of the Argan Shampoo....what would you guess it the inclusion rate? Thinking .1% or did they go crazy...and put .5% in there?

    INCI:  Water (Aqua), Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, PPG-2 Hydroxyethyl Coco/Isostearamide, Argania Spinosa (Argan) Kernel Oil, Panthenol, Dimethicone, Amodimethicone, Glycol Stearate, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium-6, Polyquaternium-10, Laureth-4, Laureth-23, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cetrimonium Chloride, Trideceth-12, Citric Acid, Fragrance (Parfum), Tetrasodium EDTA, Sodium Chloride, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Yellow 5 (CI 19140), Red 40 (CI 16035).
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