Best Source for Foam or bigger spray nozzle? My formula clogs Atomizers?

Galaxy1111Galaxy1111 Member
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My formula gets stuck in normal atomizers...is there a way to modify it manually so it dosent get clogged? I have oil with small particles from powder that did not fully dissolve and or the water oil mix is jamming the sprayer...is there a chemical i can add to the formula thats organic that can have the solution be more fluid and better emulsified?

I was thinking to but the foam sprayer nozzeles because I theorize they are bigger and the formula can come out successfully then...i do not want to use the squeeze dropper for this.
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  • klangridgeklangridge Member
    Are you able to dissolve the solid oil in a liquid before you emulsify your formula? If you have chosen suitable emulsifiers, then they should keep the particle size of your oil small enough that you don't notice any solids once it's cooled.

    Spray nozzles are all very similar designs - if your product clogs one, then it is probably not a sprayable product, unfortunately.
  • Benz3neBenz3ne Member
    What 'powder' are you referring to? Should it have fully dissolved and if not, why not?
    All we currently know is that it is an oil with powder, that is then used to make an oil/water mixture and that you're assuming that it is not correctly emulsified, but that the powder not being dissolved is possibly the issue.
    I'm afraid we'll need a little more information to help.
  • Galaxy1111Galaxy1111 Member
    klangridge said:
    Are you able to dissolve the solid oil in a liquid before you emulsify your formula? If you have chosen suitable emulsifiers, then they should keep the particle size of your oil small enough that you don't notice any solids once it's cooled.

    Spray nozzles are all very similar designs - if your product clogs one, then it is probably not a sprayable product, unfortunately.
    what does that mean to dissolve the oil into a liquid? i thought it was impossible to dissolve oil into water without an emulsifier...right now im using polysugamulsed9....i put powdered cayanne pepper into the water oil mix with the suga mulse and put it in a pressure cooker and heated it up for an hour and after cooling it still did not dissolve.
  • Galaxy1111Galaxy1111 Member
    Benz3ne said:
    What 'powder' are you referring to? Should it have fully dissolved and if not, why not?
    All we currently know is that it is an oil with powder, that is then used to make an oil/water mixture and that you're assuming that it is not correctly emulsified, but that the powder not being dissolved is possibly the issue.
    I'm afraid we'll need a little more information to help.
    i am heating up peppermint oil with cayenne pepper.....also there distilled water and polysugad9mulse in it......why is it not mixing...is there another emulsifier that works better than this ? poly suga mulse d9
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Pepper will not dissolve. You are wasting your time.
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  • klangridgeklangridge Member
    @Galaxy1111 You will not be able to dissolve pepper, therefore it will always block your spray nozzle. You are not making a sprayable formulation. You may also find that it blocks other packaging such as pumps much like an exfoliator in a scrub would do. You need to change your formulation; either remove the pepper, or thicken it and put it in a bottle or tube with flip-top cap.
  • Galaxy1111Galaxy1111 Member
    Belassi said:
    Pepper will not dissolve. You are wasting your time.
    wait...why cant i dissolve pepper is it impossible to do so?
  • Galaxy1111Galaxy1111 Member
    @Galaxy1111 You will not be able to dissolve pepper, therefore it will always block your spray nozzle. You are not making a sprayable formulation. You may also find that it blocks other packaging such as pumps much like an exfoliator in a scrub would do. You need to change your formulation; either remove the pepper, or thicken it and put it in a bottle or tube with flip-top cap.
    wait...why cant i dissolve pepper is it impossible to do so?
  • justaerinjustaerin Member
    wait...why cant i dissolve pepper is it impossible to do so?


    Because cayenne pepper is a ground up fruit. It is not completely oil soluble or water soluble. There's other material there, like fiber and cellulose, that doesn't dissolve in either water or oil. You'd need to filter it out in order to make your creation sprayable.
  • klangridgeklangridge Member
    edited December 2020
    @Galaxy1111 You will not be able to dissolve pepper, therefore it will always block your spray nozzle. You are not making a sprayable formulation. You may also find that it blocks other packaging such as pumps much like an exfoliator in a scrub would do. You need to change your formulation; either remove the pepper, or thicken it and put it in a bottle or tube with flip-top cap.
    wait...why cant i dissolve pepper is it impossible to do so?
    Dissolving pepper would be comparable to trying to dissolve ground up rocks, or perhaps seeds. That's why those sort of ingredients are often used as exfoliants - because they don't dissolve. But they are never added to formulations which come in spray form. In order to dissolve the pepper, you would probably have to break it down using strong acid/alkali and then you wouldn't be adding the resulting mixture to a cosmetic product because you'd also be dissolving the skin/hair you apply it to and leaving chemical burns.
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