Shampoo thickeners no salt

AbdullahAbdullah Member
edited April 2020 in Formulating
What are some thickeners with best viscosity and feel for Shampoo with nonionic surfactants?

Other than
 salt 
 xanthan gum
 guar gum



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  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    Hydroxyethylecellulose

    Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose

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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Glucamate VLT is the absolute best but it's not cheap.
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  • JennycatJennycat Member
    Hydroxyethylecellulose, and carbopol AQSF-1
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    I have used Hydroxyethylecellulose but it does not thicken the product. It doesn't even thicken the water alone. 

    Does it have any specific method to thicken like cationic guar that needs the pH to be neutralized?

    We purchased from India and sellers there don't have enough information about how to work with it. 
  • JennycatJennycat Member
    There are various grade of hydroxyethyl cellulose, so they behave differently.

    The delayed-hydration version as a coating for easy blending, and you will need to adjust pH to 8-10 to thicken it.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    @Perry is Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose compatible with %15 APG surfactants? 
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    @Abdullah - see this discussion about alkyl poly glucosides and HEC

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  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    @Perry that is Hydroxyethylcellulose. I asked about Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose if it is compatible with %15 APG. I have seen 2 manufacturers one said it is not compatible one said it is compatible. So i thought i may find correct answer here. 
  • GuntherGunther Member
    Crothix
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