Possible to emulsify oil in water with a clear output?

Hi Everyone,

I'm in the process of putting together ingredients for a hydrating skin mist that needs to be clear, no cloudy liquid after the mixture phases. 

Is this possible with the ingredients below? I appreciate your time and professional input in advance. 


Phase 1
  • Water/Rosewater
  • Glycerin
  • Propanediol
Phase 2
  • Polysorbate 20
  • Camellia Seed Oil
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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Try it and see. I doubt it.
    Cosmetic Brand Creation. Concept to name to IMPI search to logo and brand registration. In-house graphic design inc. Pantone specs. Cosmetic label and box design & graphics.
  • Belassi said:
    Try it and see. I doubt it.
    Always cloudy. Any insight on how this formula is completely clear? I can't figure it out.

    Water/Aqua/Eau, Propanedoil, Glycerin, Glycereth-7 Triacetate, Polysorbate 20, Rosa Rubiginosa Seed Oil, Sodium Levulinate, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Gold (CI 77480), Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Oil, Limonene, Disodium EDTA, Aroma, Cellulose Gum, Linalool
  • Glycereth-7 Triacetate
     from supplier info (Phoenix Chemical)
    "Two properties that make PELEMOL ® G7A indispensable to the cosmetic chemist is its total water-solubility and outstanding solvency, having the ability to dissolve a variety of cosmetic esters and oils. It also functions as a coupling agent in water, solubilizing water-insoluble and marginally soluble esters"


  • PharmaPharma Member, Pharmacist
    It's likely a matter of concentration. What you need is a micellar emulsion: Use less oil, a loooot less oil.

  • It’s the gold! Just kidding. 

    I believe this list is similar to Neutrogena’s HydroBoost gel. Perhaps crossing the two lists will help? (Please come back and let us know what you learn.)
  • mrlv90 said:
    Belassi said:
    Try it and see. I doubt it.
    Always cloudy. Any insight on how this formula is completely clear? I can't figure it out.

    Water/Aqua/Eau, Propanedoil, Glycerin, Glycereth-7 Triacetate, Polysorbate 20, Rosa Rubiginosa Seed Oil, Sodium Levulinate, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Gold (CI 77480), Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Oil, Limonene, Disodium EDTA, Aroma, Cellulose Gum, Linalool
    It can be done. But only because that formula is most likely a microemulsion. Try more Polysorbate 20 and MUCH LESS oil. Probably no more than 1%.
  • Okay, thank you. I'll be sure to give this a shot. 

    In your opinions, if a company is branding their product with an oil that's less than 1% of the formula...exactly how effective, if effective at all, is the delivery of that ingredient e.g. the oil? 
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Basically you are spraying yourself with water that smells of roses. That's it.
    Next question, please...
    Cosmetic Brand Creation. Concept to name to IMPI search to logo and brand registration. In-house graphic design inc. Pantone specs. Cosmetic label and box design & graphics.
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