1. What are the best polymeric emulsifiers for imparting pleasant skin feel and smooth slip to O/W emulsions containing approximately 30% oil phase?
2. What film former (if necessary to add) works best with this polymeric emulsifier for imparting pleasant sensory effects?
3. What thickener (if necessary to add) works best with this polymeric emulsifier for imparting pleasant sensory effects?
In summary, what is your favorite polymeric emulsifier for pleasant sensory and smooth slip?
Any suggestions, comments or discussion about any one or all of the questions above are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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It's not a bad emulsifier, but the texture reminds orange marmalade to me, so I never use it alone.
If you added 2.5% of SEPINOV EMT 10 to an O/W emulsion with a 30% oil phase; approximately what percentage of SEPIMAX ZEN (INCI: Polyacrylate Crosspolymer-6) would you add to the same emulsion as a co-emulsifier to achieve a pleasing skin feel and velvety slip?
Would this combination of emulsifiers (SEPINOV EMT + SEPIMAX ZEN) match well with Carbopol as a thickener and texturizer to achieve an elegant skin feel and smooth slip?
I would imagine that you would have to get the proportions right of a combination of two polymeric emulsifiers plus Carbopol in the same formula in order to avoid balling and other undesirable effects.
Thanks again @nagarayeva001, your contributions are always incredibly valuable and enlightening!
It obviously makes it hot process but should be more stable like that.
Which of these emulsifier combinations do you think would work best to produce a stable, opaque white, O/W body cream with an approximate 25%-30% oil phase that has pleasant skin feel with a velvety smooth slip?
I do not want to produce a gel, but rather an opaque O/W body cream.
I am completely open to the idea of combining a polymeric emulsifier with a conventional emulsifier or even a "natural" bio-based emulsifier, like one from the MONTANOV series of emulsifiers.
Do you have any suggested emulsifier combinations (polymeric + traditional; and polymeric + "natural" or other combinations of three) that would likely produce an aesthetically pleasing and stable opaque white body cream with elegant and velvety skin feel and silicone-like slip (without the use of silicone)?
Thanks very much for letting me pick your brain!
If you had to eliminate the Arlacel 165 from the formula, how would you adjust the emulsification system containing the SEPINOV EMT 10 and SEPIMAX ZEN in order to achieve a pleasant skin feel and relatively silicone-like slip in this O/W body cream formula?
What ingredients (not containing silicone) would you add to the SEPINOV EMT 10 and SEPIMAX ZEN? Would you retain the Cetyl Alcohol? How might the proportions change?
I understand that this type of emulsification system missing the Arlacel 165 will possibly or likely fall short of the pleasant sensory effects afforded by one containing Arlacel 165. Nevertheless, I am curious what else you could add (that does not contain silicone), if anything, that would possibly achieve a similar sensory result in a O/W cream as a cream containing Arlacel 165.
Thanks so very much!
Other than that, as I said Sepinov EMT 10 and Sepimax Zen combination. I don't think you need to add anything, because you will get enough slip. You can add 1-2% of coco caprylate to your oil phase, but it's a matter of taste. I think it's too much of a slip. Try it and see whether you like it.
Would you adjust the emulsification system by doubling the quantity while keeping their relative proportions the same in order to make up for the lack of Arlacel 165?
In other words, would the adjusted emulsifing formula look something like the following with the objective of fully stabilizing an O/W body cream with approximate oil phase of 25%-30%?
SEPINOV EMT 10 - 2.00%
SEPIMAX ZEN - 1.00%
Thank you so much!
Thanks! This is immensely helpful.
If you had the option of choosing any emulsifier system for the goal of producing an O/W body cream containing between 18%-30% oil phase that has exceptional sensory skin feel and slip and excellent stability, would you be more likely achieve this goal using a polymeric or traditional emulsion system?
Thanks again!
Please refer to my comment and question immediately preceding this message.
Thanks again so much!