Hair Powder, how?

Recently I have been wondering the science of Hair Powder. Here is the example of the formula shown from one of the product.

(Aqua, Silica Silylate, Alumunium Strach Octenylsuccinate, Alcohol, Sodium Polystyrene Sulfonate, Aloe Barbadensis Gel, Fragrance, Sodium Benzoate.)

here are some lists of the ingredients that are shown. My question are, is that all the ingredients needed to make this type of product? If it wasnt all the ingredients, what else does it need? And how does it made? Any ideas for the process and formula on this kinda product? It will be exciting to make this product i think.

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  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    You can find numerous starting Formulations online for these products. That is an Evonik Formulation that you posted above.

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  • FekherFekher Member, Professional Chemist
    @perry @ngarayeva001 @Gunther have you an idea about this product i did not find any good formulation or research about it , waiting your interesting help.
  • DoreenDoreen Member
    edited December 2018
    @Fekher
    Microformulation just answered the question. It's an Evonik product. Practically all those prototype formulations can be found online.
  • Personal-care.evonik.com
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    edited December 2018
    The Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is an AkzoNobel product as is the Flexan II. This Formula looks familiar due to the fact that several years ago the Evonik reps were giving out a Hair Care Formulations brochure that highlighted this as a dry shampoo. It was when they were first promoting the powder to water/cream Formulations. Only the backbone of the formula though. 
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  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    And back to the original poster, yes, to make this type of product you would most definitely make this product. However, there are other Formulations that use vastly different raw materials much easier to obtain. Think "a pleasant smelling, free-flowing adsorbant powder that sucks up the "oils" and if possible leaves a highly pleasant residual effect." That is a simplification but will help you a bit I hope.
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  • Whats the purpose of the water in a powdered product? Does this type of product feel moist when applied?
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    No, it uses Evonik's Powder to cream Formulation "System."  They have numerous sell sheets on this system with various starting Formulations. When they first promoted the materials at supplier's day they gave out a sample. It was a powder that dropped all its liquid load on the skin. It is hard to explain. I played around with it and made a DHA bronzer with it but it would have been too expensive for that market.
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  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    edited December 2018
    This product opens up a great deal of potential to add water-soluble actives (conditioning comes to mind) to dry shampoo. If you do it right any wet feeling rapidly dissipates. Don't try this without an overhead mixer and a disperser blade. That stick blender will just make a mess.  

    Hardly new.


    markfuller@microformulation.com Microformulation.com Microformulation Cosmetic Consulting provides Custom Formulations for both large Commercial accounts as well as smaller entrepreneurs. We can provide Naturally compliant Formulations under the NSF, NPA, Whole Foods and USDA Organic Certifications. BS.Pharm Albany College of Pharmacy, Union University.
  • It's interesting for sure. I want to make a sample in the future as my curiosity has got the best of me as we are looking to develope a powdered texturizer. This would lend itself into the conditioning category as you stated as well. 
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    Evonik's Technical Staff is one of the best out there. They will give you a great deal of guidance. The only caveat is that some of these materials may have a higher MOQ than some are accustomed to.
    markfuller@microformulation.com Microformulation.com Microformulation Cosmetic Consulting provides Custom Formulations for both large Commercial accounts as well as smaller entrepreneurs. We can provide Naturally compliant Formulations under the NSF, NPA, Whole Foods and USDA Organic Certifications. BS.Pharm Albany College of Pharmacy, Union University.
  • FekherFekher Member, Professional Chemist
    edited December 2018
    thanks all for answer but @Doreen actually desired product is not founded it is about hair powder for who suffer from hair loss it gives a great volume for hair to cover  loss hair as example hair cubed so such product me and @Aldyppratama look for.
  • @Fekher
    Ok, got it! :) :+1: I didn't know it was for hair loss.
    I hope you will find something useful.

    (Dr. Straetmans (an Evonik brand) also has all their prototype formulas online.
    https://www.dr-straetmans.de/en/products/ )
  • Exactly the reason I was formulating the texturizing powder for ourselves as there are not many products on the market for thinning hair. Texturizing powders aid in styling thinning hair without the greasy weight of normal products. 
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    markfuller@microformulation.com Microformulation.com Microformulation Cosmetic Consulting provides Custom Formulations for both large Commercial accounts as well as smaller entrepreneurs. We can provide Naturally compliant Formulations under the NSF, NPA, Whole Foods and USDA Organic Certifications. BS.Pharm Albany College of Pharmacy, Union University.
  • FekherFekher Member, Professional Chemist
    @Doreen thanks for your kind help.
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