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  • Average cost of manufactured bulk?

    Posted by Fastfiller on January 7, 2018 at 1:54 am

    For a typical decent quality dry skin lotion/cream (assuming no expensive proprietary ingredients), what are some rough ideas on price per ounce for the manufactured bulk (figure a 100 gallon batch size for example). 

    bill_toge replied 6 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • bobzchemist

    Member
    January 7, 2018 at 3:19 am

    100 gallons isn’t really a production size - it’s closer to a large pilot batch. The answer to this will be distorted by the need to make such a small batch.

  • Fastfiller

    Member
    January 7, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    What is typically the smallest production batch size? 

  • oldperry

    Member
    January 8, 2018 at 3:16 am

    300 gallons is probably the smallest “production”.  1000 or 2000 gallons is common.

    The answer depends on the company and types of price deals they can get on raw materials.  But a small manufacturer should be able to make the formula for $1 - $2 for 8 ounces.  Big companies can make it for a lot less.

  • belassi

    Member
    January 8, 2018 at 6:11 am

    By deduction, using the rule of 6, then if a dollar store can sell a skin cream of 240mL for a dollar, then its production cost, including packaging, was around 17 cents.

  • zaidjeber

    Member
    January 8, 2018 at 7:45 am

    @Belassi would you please explain the rule of 6?

  • oldperry

    Member
    January 8, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    The low cost shampoo brand that I worked on had formulas that cost 8 cents a pound for raw materials.

  • belassi

    Member
    January 8, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    Rule of 6: Pretty much everything you can see for sale in the supermarket actually cost 1/6 of the retail price to produce.
    EG If there are three levels (MFR-WHOLESALE-RETAIL) then level 1 sells to level 2 at 75% markup (43% margin) and this then is sold on at another 43% and then again. This gives a 5.4 multiple. Since I have not included transport or storage costs you can see where the x6 comes from.

  • zaidjeber

    Member
    January 9, 2018 at 3:25 am

    @Belassi thank you very much  :)

  • drbobverdient-biz

    Member
    January 10, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    We use the rule of seven to include advertising combined with the three levels as outlined above including freight/shipping gives a fairly accurate picture of the markup multiples.

  • bill_toge

    Member
    January 10, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    depends on the company’s capabilities; for us, 100 gallons (454 litres) would fill our smallest vessel nearly to the top, and the smallest batch of hot-mix product we can make is around 200 kg

    with cold mixes we can go smaller still, and with some very simple, low-viscosity products (e.g. body oils) we can even mix them in a barrel if push comes to shove

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