Reverse formulation- concentrations

MichaelJsMichaelJs Member
edited July 20 in General
(This may be a silly question)

Is it possible to import products into Europe (and notify on the cosmetic portal) without having a relationship with the manufacturer?  This would require knowledge of the ingredient concentration ranges.

Can a lab ascertain the concentration range of each ingredient listed on the packaging?   (Let's say a typical product has up to 30 ingredients, and any complex organic extracts content is negligible).

If it is possible, what kind of costs for the lab work?

Comments

  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    Are you asking if you can purchase a commercial product manufactured by Company X that is sold in Walmart, say directly from Walmart, register it for sale in Europe and then resell it as a registered product in Europe, without Company X's involvement or consent? 
    Chemist/Microbiologist formulating in the Organic & Naturals arena under ECOCert/Natural Products Assn/Whole Foods/National Organic Program guidelines focused skincare & haircare products. 

    See website for details www.desertinbloomcosmeticslab.com
  • Yes.  Not possible?

    Thanks in advance.
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    Let's go back to your original premise:

    "(This may be a silly question)"
    Chemist/Microbiologist formulating in the Organic & Naturals arena under ECOCert/Natural Products Assn/Whole Foods/National Organic Program guidelines focused skincare & haircare products. 

    See website for details www.desertinbloomcosmeticslab.com
  • jemolianjemolian Member
    One thing to think about is what kind of documents you need to hold or get from the manufacturer for the EU region, i believe the info required for the PIF, in case of checks or events. 
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    You're simply not going to get an EU Safety Assessor to sign off on submitting a report on someone else's product ... This is simply a crazy idea begging for a lawsuit.
    Chemist/Microbiologist formulating in the Organic & Naturals arena under ECOCert/Natural Products Assn/Whole Foods/National Organic Program guidelines focused skincare & haircare products. 

    See website for details www.desertinbloomcosmeticslab.com
  • Bill_TogeBill_Toge Member, Professional Chemist
    edited July 21
    @MarkBroussard and legal issues aside, they'll need a lot of information that's only available to the manufacturer/brand owner
    UK based formulation chemist. Strongest subjects: hair styling, hair bleaches, hair dyes (oxidative and non-oxidative) I know some stuff about: EU regulations, emulsions (O/W and W/O), toothpaste, mouthwash, shampoos, other toiletries
  • PattsiPattsi Member
    Check if the brand already have designated distributor in your country/region or not.
    If not you can contact the brand directly and ask for a business matching or a proposal meeting and work on the deal. brand will give you distributor's price and needed registration documents and shipping after. Also there are other means to do it legally.
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