Leave in conditoner ingridents

hey everyone I wanted to know if some of the ingredients in my product isn't necessary and if that's too much

1) water 
2)aloe Vera juice 
3)panthenol 
4)honey 
glycerin
silk amino acids
marshmallow root extract 
slippery elm extract 
flaxseed extract 
polyquaternium 10 
btms-50 
cety alcohol
ceterayl alcohol
cety esters 
baobab oil 
kukui nut oil
 avocado oil 
meadowfoam seed oil 
moringa oil
babassu oil 
daikon seed extract 
sunflower oil
palm oil
soybean oil 
optiphen plus 
fragrance


@Perry

Comments

  • ozgirlozgirl Member, PCF student
    The only things that are necessary are

    Water
    BTMS-50
    optiphen plus

    Reduce your oils to 1 or 2 you definitely do not need different 9 oils.

    Aloe and honey are bug food so leave these out.

    Add your extracts individually and see if there is any perceivable difference (if not leave them out).

    You probably don't need cetyl alcohol and cetearyl alcohol. Try each one to see which gives you the feel/viscosity you need.

    Adding so many ingredients like this is just throwing money away.
  • edited March 5
    ozgirl said:
    The only things that are necessary are

    Water
    BTMS-50
    optiphen plus

    Reduce your oils to 1 or 2 you definitely do not need different 9 oils.

    Aloe and honey are bug food so leave these out.

    Add your extracts individually and see if there is any perceivable difference (if not leave them out).

    You probably don't need cetyl alcohol and cetearyl alcohol. Try each one to see which gives you the feel/viscosity you need.

    Adding so many ingredients like this is just throwing money away.
    Thank you so so so much because this was really helpful i was stressing myself out cause my mind is saying more is better and truth is that's not always the case and yes ur right because i barley have money to buy these ingredients much less to waste!!! what do you think about the polyquaternium-10 and cetyl esters??
  • ozgirlozgirl Member, PCF student
    I haven't tried cetyl esters so I can't really comment on that.

    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn't but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.
  • ozgirl said:
    I haven't tried cetyl esters so I can't really comment on that.

    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn't but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.
    thank you so much I took ur advice and this is what I have now 

    water 
    btms-50
    optiphen plus
    fragrance
    polyquaternium-10 
    cetyl esters
    marshmallow root extract
    flaxseed extract
    slippery elm extract 
    glycerin 
    silk amino acids 
    baobab oil 
    kukui nut oil 
    meadowfoam seed oil 
    sunflower oil 
    soybean oil
    if i should make some changes to this too let me know I'm open to ur advice and I'm going to listen


    and also as you said I'm going to try one with cetyl alcohol, cetaryl alcohol and so on.....

    thank you and so sorry to ask all these questions but i just need some help!!
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    ozgirl said:
    I haven't tried cetyl esters so I can't really comment on that.

    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn't but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.
    May I ask what additional benefits pg10 has over BTMS?
  • Abdullah said:
    ozgirl said:
    I haven't tried cetyl esters so I can't really comment on that.

    Polyquaternium 10 might add some additional benefits that BTMS doesn't but you should just try it with and without Polyquaternium-10 and see if there is a perceivable difference.
    May I ask what additional benefits pg10 has over BTMS?
    Polyquaternium-10 is a high-performing multitasker used to fight frizz, improve hair manageability, and provide defined and bouncy curls. 
    and u cant pass 2% for the usage rate so I don't know if there's going to be a difference 


  • 1Armand21Armand2 Member
    What is BTMS?
    Thanks
  • 1Armand2 said:
    What is BTMS?
    Thanks
    BTMS-50, or Behentrimonium Methosulfate is a vegetable based conditioning emulsifier. It can be used to emulsify cosmetic formula's (meaning it helps water and oil mix) 
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