Dog shampoo bars?

Why are there no dog shampoo bars on the market (I wonder)? 

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  • That's just regular soap, ja?:  Saponified Coconut*, Olive*, Castor*, Sunflower*, Jojoba*, and Rice Bran Oils*, Neem Oil*, Organic Aloe Vera Juice, Lemongrass Essential Oil, Spearmint Essential Oil, Sulfur, Stearic Acid & Vitamin E. (*Organic).

      I'm referring to shampoooooo bars, made with surfactants like sodium cocoyl isethionate, sodium cocosulfate and cocamidopropyl betaine. 

  • Margreat  We're really pleased with "Lion's Market by Ann Shampoo Bar for Canines'.  I just posted this in another area asking a similar questionl
  • @anniemarie. Aren't those Lion's Market items bars of soap? 
  • It's soap. Using soap on a dog is just plain stupid.
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  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    edited January 2019
    Absolutely. My biggest vet client is a Veterinary Dermatologist. She rails against the use of saponified soaps in Vet use whenever it comes up. She sees canines with skin issues with the "Natural" liquid soap shampoos all the time.

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  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    Yes, those are bars of soap that the marketer is trying to position as formulated for dogs. 

    Nonsense ... it's soap, so it will have a pH of at least 9.0 and, in my opinion, should not be used on dogs.

    Look at the ways dogs cleanse & groom naturally ... using water, shaking, licking themselves ... you'll want to use the most gentle, pH-balanced cleanser you can find.

    Your best models for developing dog shampoos are tear-free baby shampoos. 

    I have a poodle and make up a simple Plantapon TF ( Decyl Glucoside (and) Polyglyceryl-10 Caprylate/Caprate (and) Coco-Glucoside (and) Glyceryl Oleate) mix consisting of nothing more than Water, Plantapon TF, pH adjuster 
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  • I wonder if the same logic (pH balanced mild surfactants and water) would work for cats?
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    Sure, cats live in the same nature as dogs.  I don't know anything specific about cat's skin, but if you do some research, I'm sure the info is out there.
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  • I'm still wondering why there are no shampoo bars i.e. syndet bars for dogs. Any ideas?

  • What about a syndet bar for washing dogs that contained THESE ingredients, adjusted to a final pH of 7?:

    Sodium Cococylisethionate 65% (without stearic acid in the SCI)
    Cocamidopropyl Betaine 13%
    Sodium Cocosulfate 10%
    Stearic Acid 2%
    Cetyl Alcohol 3%
    Glycerin 2%
    Sodium Lactate (60% solution) 3%
    Lavender buds (for a little scent) 2%
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    There may well have been in the past.  Perhaps the bars for dogs were replaced by liquid products due to overwhelming consumer preference for the liquid products ... I would much rather us a liquid on my dog than trying to work up a good lather with a bar.
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  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    I agree with @MarkBroussard. There probably was a product like that on the market. But for business reasons (e.g. not enough customers, bad timing or not enough profit) it didn't last.

    It's likely that nearly every idea that anyone conceives has already been tried on the market. If it's not still around, it failed and was abandoned. That doesn't mean someone else can't take the same idea and be successful with it.

  • Thanks @MarkBroussard and Joggling @Perry !

  • I think @MarkBroussard, most of us here could "work up a good lather" using a bar vs. liquid  by reading the B.S. claims on many cosmetic products..get it? Get it? ?
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