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  • How did this hair mask straighten curly hair?

    Posted by kavellahaircare on December 6, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    A hairstylist friend of mine reached out and said a client’s hair got “accidentally” straightened after leaving on this mask for 40 minutes, with no heat applied. I see a lot of amino acids and emollients, don’t see any formaldehyde-releasers but I could be missing something. I’m so curious as to how this could have happened with these ingredients! Any ideas?

    kavellahaircare replied 5 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • kavellahaircare

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    I know Quat-15 releases formaldehyde, but I don’t see any other ingredients here that release it that I’m aware of. 

  • oldperry

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    When you say it straightened curly hair, what do you mean?

    Was it permanently straightened like a relaxer?  Was it temporarily straightened like a flat iron?

    Most likely what happened is that the hair mask left a coating on the hair fibers which weighed down the hair and hydrogen bonding in the fiber did the rest. If it goes curly after the next wash, that’s probably it.

  • gunther

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    The List Of Ingredients doesn’t contain any water 
    so it makes it all dubious
    it may well contain an undeclared ingredient.

    Can you please check its pH to see if it’s highly alkaline, thus the reason it relaxes hair?
    Does it smell like perm? If it does it may contain thioglycolic acid
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thioglycolic_acid

  • kavellahaircare

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    The stylist lives across the country, but I am curious enough to purchase it myself to test the pH. I was told the hair was straightened like a relaxer or similar straightening treatment and did not recurl when washed in the salon. Client has coily-type curly hair. The roots were still curly but the rest of the hair where this “moisture mask” (not my brand, they were just curious) was applied went straight. I advised them to have the client wash with a clarifying shampoo and then report back. I’m just so curious now! 

    And yes, they did say it smelled a little bit like sulfur after the 40 minutes when they rinsed it, but not before they rinsed. I couldn’t find a reason for that in the IL, so I agree it could be an undeclared ingredient. 

    Thank you both!

  • oldperry

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    Yeah, the ingredient label is has lots of mistakes so you can’t really use it to know what is in the formula. If it straightened the hair like a relaxer, then it’s probably a relaxer.

  • gunther

    Member
    December 6, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    The stylist lives across the country, but I am curious enough to purchase it myself to test the pH. I was told the hair was straightened like a relaxer or similar straightening treatment and did not recurl when washed in the salon. Client has coily-type curly hair. The roots were still curly but the rest of the hair where this “moisture mask” (not my brand, they were just curious) was applied went straight. I advised them to have the client wash with a clarifying shampoo and then report back. I’m just so curious now! 

    And yes, they did say it smelled a little bit like sulfur after the 40 minutes when they rinsed it, but not before they rinsed. I couldn’t find a reason for that in the IL, so I agree it could be an undeclared ingredient. 

    Thank you both!

    Thioglycolic acid has both sulfur, and a particular smell, although I disagree that it’s a strongly unpleasant odor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thioglycolic_acid

    Maybe you smell peroxide used to neutralize it?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_thioglycolate

  • bill_toge

    Member
    December 10, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Gunther said:

    Thioglycolic acid has both sulfur, and a particular smell, although I disagree that it’s a strongly unpleasant odor

    there speaks someone who has never worked with it in large quantities, or has been in the same building as a two-ton batch of perm in the process of being mixed
  • kavellahaircare

    Member
    December 11, 2018 at 5:36 am

     :D :D  

  • stanley

    Member
    December 11, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    @Perry 
    Could you explain the hydrogen bonding effect that you mentioned.  What exactly does hydrogen bonding do with relaxing the hair.  

    Assuming a relaxer would be used on an African/African American hair would you need more or stronger hydrogen bonding to occur?

  • gunther

    Member
    December 12, 2018 at 11:04 pm

    Bill_Toge said:

    Gunther said:

    Thioglycolic acid has both sulfur, and a particular smell, although I disagree that it’s a strongly unpleasant odor

    there speaks someone who has never worked with it in large quantities, or has been in the same building as a two-ton batch of perm in the process of being mixed

    Is free thioglycolic acid any more effective at relaxing hair than the thioglycolate salts?

  • oldperry

    Member
    December 14, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    @Stanley - Hydrogen bonding doesn’t play a huge role in relaxed hair. I was just suggesting it as a possible explanation for the question posted above. 

    But you can see the straightening effect of hydrogen bonding by taking a curly / wavy hair tress and getting it wet. It absorbs water which pulls the hair straighter. Hydrogen bonding between water molecules and hair protein can help maintain the shape for a short while. But as the water evaporates so does most of the effect.

    To relax hair, you would need a more significant chemical change which is what you can get from Lye or Thioglycolate.

     

  • kavellahaircare

    Member
    December 17, 2018 at 4:38 am

    I haven’t received any updates from the person who presented this situation to me. I assume her staff must have made a mistake that they aren’t admitting. If anything further develops, I’ll make sure to keep you all updated. Thank you for your help!

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