Increasing the slip/glide in Deep Conditioner formulation


I am quite new to formulating and have made few deep conditioners however they do not have the slip that I want for my hair ( I have African textured hair). I was wondering if anyone could provide some advice on how to increase the Slip in my conditioner formulation below:

Water- 79.5 %
Cetaryl Alcohol- 4%
BTMS- 3%
Avocado Oil- 3%
Broccoli Seed -3%
D-pathanol- 1.5%
Hydrolysed Wheat - 2%
Preservative (PCG)- 1%


  • johnbjohnb Member
    edited May 2017
    It may improve things if you neutralise/slightly acidify the stearamidopropyl dimethylamine. I suggest about 1% lactic acid.
  • Try 1% silicone dimethicone or D4 D5----also low level of Hydroxyethylcellulse should help---your call!
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
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  • pepepepe Member
    Using dimethicone or dimethiconol mixtures, enhance the performance of your conditioner by giving slippery effect.
  • JennyBJennyB Member
    Thanks ;DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ  and @pepe but Im trying to avoid Silicones, so looking for alternatives to the- I should have mentioned in my original post.
  • JennyBJennyB Member
    johnb Thanks, I didnt mention here that I neutralise with citric acid to get he PH to about 4.5 at the end, would this not be sufficient?

    MarkBroussard Thanks, will have a look into this ingredient
  • Chemist77Chemist77 Member, PCF student
    Try one of the Polyox powders, maybe Polyox WSR 201 at around 0.05-0.10% and see if gives a desired slip.
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    I'd reduce the oil levels and use Coconut Oil instead of the broccoli.  And your level of panthenol is too high as it won't have any noticeable benefit on hair. The hydrolyzed wheat may increase the tackiness which decreases the slip you are looking for so you might want to reduce that too.

    Of course, I would recommend you use silicones because you really can't beat them for slip. Choosing to avoid silicones is choosing to make a product that doesn't work as well.
  • rockrock Member
    hello you can try silk amino acid and bamboo silk extract it can ghelp to replace the silicone , 
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