Thickner agents in Hand sanitizer

hello every one. I have make hand sanitizer and in this i have use Carbomer 940  as a Thickner agents but I am facing problem with 940. Sanitizer become very cloudy not transparent my question is
i am mixing correct product or is there any Substitutes for Carbomer 940
Thanks

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  • johnbjohnb Member
    You need to provide more details about your formulation/product and how you are preparing it.
  • AvirockAvirock Member
    thanks

    My formula is 

    Deionized Water as a Base liquid
    Carbomer 940 as a Thickener
    Glycerine as a Humectant
    Ethanol as a Biocide
    TEA as a Neutralizer
  • johnbjohnb Member
     - - and your method of preparation is?

    Note that Carbopol 941 has better flow characteristics in a product such as this.
  • AvirockAvirock Member
    fist i had mix carbopol with water and put ethanol and tea last glycerine
  • johnbjohnb Member
    edited May 2017
    Better to:
    a) mix the ethanol and water and allow the gases to disperse (the gases are simply air that has been dissolved in the water - these dissolved gases may be the cause of your cloudiness).
    b) mix the Carbopol with glycerin then add most of the premixed ethanol & water.
    c) add the TEA mixed with the remaining ethanol/water mix to the main bulk and mix until homogeneous. Avoid entrapment of air.
  • AvirockAvirock Member
    thanks i will try and let u know..
  • AymanAyman Member
     And you must use distilled water or deminarlized water to avoid cloudiness 
  • johnbjohnb Member
    Ayman - good point!
  • AvirockAvirock Member
    hi
    i have use Carbomer with viscosity 42000 cps. i am not achieved correct thickness please suggest me the correct viscosity of Carbomer.

    Thanks
  • johnbjohnb Member
    Change the quantity of Carbomer if the viscosity does not meet your requirements.
  • Swap the TEA for AMP and you should get a nice clear gel
  • Hello, please I need a standard measurement of ethanol, carbomer, glycerine and tea tree oil to make  10L of hand sanitizer.  And what vol of water can I use to mix with The carbomer
  • i want to make hand senitizer But i dont know how much quantity % use of carbomer in water . and which is the best for it 940 or 980.
  • em88em88 Member
    i want to make hand senitizer But i dont know how much quantity % use of carbomer in water . and which is the best for it 940 or 980.
    Based on your questions, you do not have enough experience in this area. I'd strongly recommend doing the sanitizer exactly as WHO mentions if you really must do it yourself. 
  • Any idea what your Transparency percent is at 8200 cp or somewhere close with the 980? Also, what meter do you use to test that? I use a different carbomer, and mine does not clear up well, so I'm looking at different options. I also use TEA as it is readily available to me. (I do not have access to AMP)
  • windyrwindyr Member
    You can use TEA but you will need more than the AMP. Put enough to get the required ph.

  • GuntherGunther Member
    em88 said:
    i want to make hand senitizer But i dont know how much quantity % use of carbomer in water . and which is the best for it 940 or 980.
    Based on your questions, you do not have enough experience in this area. I'd strongly recommend doing the sanitizer exactly as WHO mentions if you really must do it yourself. 
    If you're following the WHO guidelines, they clearly state that no thickener, or other ingredients must be added.

    You can make sanitizer gel if you want, but it won't follow the WHO guidelines.
  • HSC2020HSC2020 Member
    In the above formula if add chlorhexidine gluconate what's additionn or alternations is required to gel clear /transparent viscous gel ?.pls suggest.
  • HalimHalim Member
    I have some experiance on water based paint
    we already use a lot of different pH adjuster
    for example AMP90 and 95–Advantex—Superperse 95–KTPP—Falamine Plus—Disamtex amine grades—Silres BS 168 silicone pH adjuster—Vantex T— Lorama Amines
    I know some of them better than Amp grades
    Maybe you can solve your problem with this grades
  • NicolBNicolB Member
    AMP should give you a more clear gel. 
  • HalimHalim Member
    This company biggest paint Additive company
    they develop new thickener For hand sanitizers 
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68QfH7YB8Oc

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