Spider Web Effect Hair Wax

Hello everyone 

At the present time, I have formulated a hair wax but I would like to give the spider web effect. I have seen in other formulations that use the PEG-90M but the problem is that the shops only sell this product in bulk and is very expensive for me.

I ask you if someone perhaps know another compound to replace the PEG-90M and get the same effect. 

Thanks. I will be waiting for your comments.

Comments

  • BobzchemistBobzchemist Member, PCF student
    I don't think that there's a substitute for this, unless some of the other lower molecular weights of PEG will be cheaper for you.
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  • Unknown Member
    edited December 2016
    Thank you. I also have read that the PEG-45M give that effect but I haven´t found a supplier of this product. Do you know if the silk protein can help me get this effect?
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    No, silk protein will not do that.
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    I have made this product several times.

    Honestly, it is the PEG90M that makes it work. The PEG45 does not suffice. You may want to search carefully as there are many providers and sometimes thgeINCI's vary.
    markfuller@microformulation.com Microformulation.com Microformulation Cosmetic Consulting provides Custom Formulations for both large Commercial accounts as well as smaller entrepreneurs. We can provide Naturally compliant Formulations under the NSF, NPA, Whole Foods and USDA Organic Certifications. BS.Pharm Albany College of Pharmacy, Union University.
  • Thanks for your help. I am very grateful for your advice. 
    I will try to find this product. 
  • If I remember right I saw something once with nylon-xx, (don't know the number), however PEG-90M is the better way to go. 
  • Thanks David.
    Recently, I have found this product Kahlwax 8089 in case someone wants to try it. 
  • Chemist77Chemist77 Member, PCF student
    edited December 2016
    Dow is the supplier for Polyox water soluble resins and which come in different molecular weights. Check for your local Dow distributor. 
  • I'm sceptic that this combo has the same effect as PEG-90M, I like the minimalistic formula however. http://www.in-cosmetics.com/__novadocuments/93037?v=635725647363000000
  • I have made this product several times.

    Honestly, it is the PEG90M that makes it work. The PEG45 does not suffice. You may want to search carefully as there are many providers and sometimes thgeINCI's vary.
    Could you please provide us with the procedures and ingredients percentages ?
    Thanks in advance .

  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    Sorry, what you are asking for is a full Formulation. That isn't really the role of this site. What have you tried?
    markfuller@microformulation.com Microformulation.com Microformulation Cosmetic Consulting provides Custom Formulations for both large Commercial accounts as well as smaller entrepreneurs. We can provide Naturally compliant Formulations under the NSF, NPA, Whole Foods and USDA Organic Certifications. BS.Pharm Albany College of Pharmacy, Union University.
  • Perry said:
    No, silk protein will not do that.
    Hello , Perry 

    What is best percentage of PEG 90M to give fiber effect in such product ?
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