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    Posted by Anonymous on October 21, 2016 at 7:00 am

    Hey guys! I am wondering if there are some NATURAL (or naturally derived) surfactans which are:
    - oil-soluble
    - act like cleaning agents.

    I found only decyl glucoside. Maybe you know more?
    Thank you in advance! ;)

    microformulation replied 7 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • johnb

    Member
    October 21, 2016 at 8:56 am

    What is your intended use?

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    October 21, 2016 at 11:03 am

    Soo I want to make a shower oil. :) 

  • microformulation

    Member
    October 21, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    Are you looking to gel oils in combination with a surfactant?

  • oldperry

    Member
    October 24, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Also, what do you consider natural?  

    Decyl Glucoside does not actually occur in nature.

  • belassi

    Member
    October 24, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    By its very definition a surfactant is not “oil soluble”.
    Maybe you mean SOLVENT.

  • Anonymous

    Guest
    October 25, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Natural - a surfactant that can be derived from nature. 
    And yes. I would like to get a combination of oils (or non-polar ingredients) and cleansing surfactants. We are planning to get smth like this: http://m.skinstore.com/l-occitane-almond-foaming-shower-oil-250ml/10366203.html?thg_ppc_campaign=71700000016440145&gclid=Cj0KEQjwhbzABRDHw_i4q6fXoLIBEiQANZKGWyH9hNdarXz3dU3JvuJ3M_n4oV1yWgX72WQucoKCk7kaAiTh8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds or this http://www.dermoxilia.com/en/oil-and-care/9406-bioderma-atoderm-shower-oil.html

  • johnb

    Member
    October 25, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    Occitane Almond Foaming Shower Oil

    Ingredients:
    Mipa-Laureth Sulfate, synthetic
    Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil,
    Laureth-3,
    synthetic

    Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, synthetic
    Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond)
    Oil,
    Sorbitan Oleate, synthetic
    Peg-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, synthetic
    Fragrance, synthetic
    Cocamide Mea,
    synthetic
    Propylene Glycol, synthetic
    Tocopherol,
    Limonene, perfume component
    Coumarin, synthetic perfume component
    Rosmarinus Officinalis
    (Rosemary) Leaf Extract,
    Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil,

    Linalool. perfume component

    Bioderma Atoderm Shower Oil

    Ingredients:
    Aqua (Water),
    Glycerin,
    Peg-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, synthetic
    Sodium Cocamphoacetate, synthetic

    Lauryl Glucoside, synthetic
    Coco-Glucoside, synthetic
    Glyceryl Oleate,
    Citric Acid,
    Peg-90
    Glyceryl Isostearate, synthetic
    Fragrance (Parfum), synthetic
    Mannitol,
    Polysorbate 20, synthetic
    Xylitol,
    Laureth-2, synthetic
    Rhamnose,
    Niacinamide, synthetic
    Fructooligosaccharides,

    Tocopherol,
    Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, synthetic
    Lecithin,
    Ascorbyl
    Palmitate synthetic

    Some of the ingredients which are not classified here are synthetic may well be products of a chemical factory merely to keep up with demand and costings over the natural product. Glyceryl oleate, tocopherol and niacinamide come to mind.

    I would forget about your “natural” requirement if those products are your standard.

  • belassi

    Member
    October 25, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    How can they call this Bioderma Atoderm Shower Oil an ‘oil’ when there is no oil in it?

  • oldperry

    Member
    October 27, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @Belassi - It has some oils in it.  sunflower, almond, grapeseed.

    But we used to sell a product called “VO5 Hot Oil Treatment” which had no oil in it. Oil is a marketing term.

  • belassi

    Member
    October 28, 2016 at 12:49 am

    Oh wow. I learn something every minute. Here in Mexico “milk” is reserved for dairy produce so when we tried to market a ‘body milk’ we were politely told to change our labelling with immediate effect.

  • microformulation

    Member
    October 28, 2016 at 1:46 am

    @Belassi Here is the US the term “milk” is used frequently for a thin spray able emulsion. Common in self tanners.

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