Working on a Detox face mask

So I am working on a mask to help with people with acne and here is my formula : 
7% bentonite clay , 7% activated charcoal , 20% honey, 30 % grape seed oil ,5% tea tree oil ,1% optiphen , 10% rose hip oil ... 
help me take a look at this 

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  • PaprikPaprik Member
    What is your question/issue mate? 
  • I wwant to know if it will not irritate the skin , if the percentage is okay 
    Paprik said:
    What is your question/issue mate? 

  • The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    I wwant to know if it will not irritate the skin , if the percentage is okay 
    Paprik said:
    What is your question/issue mate? 

    What else is there? Water? 

    You can not mix them.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
  • localhostlocalhost Member
    edited June 28
    Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    SCCP (Scientific Committee on Consumer Products), Opinion on tea tree oil, 16 December 2008
  • PaprikPaprik Member
    This is from the Opinion:

    Tea Tree Oil is a skin sensitiser. Skin sensitisation may also be enhanced by irritancy. Neat Tea Tree Oil and certain formulations at concentrations of 5% or more can induce skin and eye irritation. Based on clinical data, the current use levels of TTO are shown to induce contact allergy.

    I would suggest you to make the product and try it. Frankly, I would not want to have that much Tea Tree oil close to my eyes and nose. 
    Also, I would not want to clean the bathroom after rinsing 7% of charcoal :D   
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Paprik said:
    This is from the Opinion:

    Tea Tree Oil is a skin sensitiser. Skin sensitisation may also be enhanced by irritancy. Neat Tea Tree Oil and certain formulations at concentrations of 5% or more can induce skin and eye irritation. Based on clinical data, the current use levels of TTO are shown to induce contact allergy.

    I would suggest you to make the product and try it. Frankly, I would not want to have that much Tea Tree oil close to my eyes and nose. 
    Also, I would not want to clean the bathroom after rinsing 7% of charcoal :D   
    Some of my competitors use 5% tea tree oil for acne products. Localhost said 1% TTO to i thought it maybe something i should show to those retailers who sell those 5% TTO products.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    localhost said:
    Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    SCCP (Scientific Committee on Consumer Products), Opinion on tea tree oil, 16 December 2008
    Thanks
  • localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    So I have to reduce the percentage of the tea tea oil 
  • Paprik said:
    This is from the Opinion:

    Tea Tree Oil is a skin sensitiser. Skin sensitisation may also be enhanced by irritancy. Neat Tea Tree Oil and certain formulations at concentrations of 5% or more can induce skin and eye irritation. Based on clinical data, the current use levels of TTO are shown to induce contact allergy.

    I would suggest you to make the product and try it. Frankly, I would not want to have that much Tea Tree oil close to my eyes and nose. 
    Also, I would not want to clean the bathroom after rinsing 7% of charcoal :D   
    Should I reduce the tea tree oil and charcoal , then add the remaining percentage to the rose hip oil 
  • Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    I’m not adding water , is that a problem @Paprik @Abdullah
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    I’m not adding water , is that a problem @Paprik @Abdullah
    Oils don't mix with water. Your product will separate in one minute. 

    You need to learn how to make emulsion so you can mix water and oil.
  • That’s why I’m not adding water to it 
    Abdullah said:
    Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    I’m not adding water , is that a problem @Paprik @Abdullah
    Oils don't mix with water. Your product will separate in one minute. 

    You need to learn how to make emulsion so you can mix water and oil.
    Abdullah said:
    Abdullah said:
    localhost said:
    The European Cosmetic Toiletry and Perfumery Association recommends that Tea Tree Oil should not be used in cosmetic products in a way that results in a concentration greater than 1% oil being applied to the body.
    Interesting

    Where can i find this data? 

    I need to show it to some people
    I’m not adding water , is that a problem @Paprik @Abdullah
    Oils don't mix with water. Your product will separate in one minute. 

    You need to learn how to make emulsion so you can mix water and oil.

  • PaprikPaprik Member
    Please try to make 50 or 100 grams of the product and review it. 
    I have never worked with Bentonite clay so not sure how it behaves.

    Although I think your product will be too runny (no thickener, unless bentonite will thicken it?), sticky (honey) and messy (charcoal). 
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    So what is the other 20% of product then? 

    Also you can not mix honey, bentonite & charcoal with oils. These are water soluble.
  • Paprik said:
    Please try to make 50 or 100 grams of the product and review it. 
    I have never worked with Bentonite clay so not sure how it behaves.

    Although I think your product will be too runny (no thickener, unless bentonite will thicken it?), sticky (honey) and messy (charcoal). 
    I will do that and give review 
  • GordofGordof Member
    I want to throw in that it is quite Problematik to Mix Oils and Bentonite or Clay they absorb the oil very intensely and then will not have the Capability to do what they need to do on the skin. You use Clay in an Anti-acne mask because of the fact that the Sebum that is produced by the skin is food for the bacteria that cores the acne and you want to remove that oil from the skin so that the bacteria don't have enough to eat to grow. although the clay absorbs the Bacteria from the skin if it is already full of oil it can not do that.  

    You should be oil-free normally if you add oil to such a product it will only lead to more clay needed to absorb Sebum and Bacteria from the skin. Although The caracole will do the same as the clay so you put in 2 ingredients for the same effect. of course, if you want it to be black you can use 0,5 % of Carcole to get it black and let the rest be done by the clay it is more cost-efficient I would guess. 

    Adding tee Trea oil you can do that in small concentrations to get the claims out of it or the Indication that people expect out of it. 

    Although you need to be very careful with the Therm "Acne" acne is a medical condition and therefore you can not make a Cosmetic product with that claim it would be a medical product. 


    I would suggest a Formulation like : 

    Water: 50 %
    xantan gum 0.4-0.9 %
    Kaolin / Clay 10%
    Glycerin 3-5 %
    0.3% Tea Tree oil 
    Cetyl alcohol 2-4%
    Emulsifier for Rinsoff quality (Something that is very good as a self-emulsifing system) 
    if you wanna use honey you can but it can lead to Product Issues over Different years of Collection due to changes in wax and Suger Content. 

    Conservation. ( don't use Potasiumsorbate you need too much of t and it will make some faces red after occlusive application for several minutes)

    hope that helps.

    Tobias 


    Head of Research and Development 
  • Gordof said:
    I want to throw in that it is quite Problematik to Mix Oils and Bentonite or Clay they absorb the oil very intensely and then will not have the Capability to do what they need to do on the skin. You use Clay in an Anti-acne mask because of the fact that the Sebum that is produced by the skin is food for the bacteria that cores the acne and you want to remove that oil from the skin so that the bacteria don't have enough to eat to grow. although the clay absorbs the Bacteria from the skin if it is already full of oil it can not do that.  

    You should be oil-free normally if you add oil to such a product it will only lead to more clay needed to absorb Sebum and Bacteria from the skin. Although The caracole will do the same as the clay so you put in 2 ingredients for the same effect. of course, if you want it to be black you can use 0,5 % of Carcole to get it black and let the rest be done by the clay it is more cost-efficient I would guess. 

    Adding tee Trea oil you can do that in small concentrations to get the claims out of it or the Indication that people expect out of it. 

    Although you need to be very careful with the Therm "Acne" acne is a medical condition and therefore you can not make a Cosmetic product with that claim it would be a medical product. 


    I would suggest a Formulation like : 

    Water: 50 %
    xantan gum 0.4-0.9 %
    Kaolin / Clay 10%
    Glycerin 3-5 %
    0.3% Tea Tree oil 
    Cetyl alcohol 2-4%
    Emulsifier for Rinsoff quality (Something that is very good as a self-emulsifing system) 
    if you wanna use honey you can but it can lead to Product Issues over Different years of Collection due to changes in wax and Suger Content. 

    Conservation. ( don't use Potasiumsorbate you need too much of t and it will make some faces red after occlusive application for several minutes)

    hope that helps.

    Tobias 


    Thank you
    God bless you 
  • Here is the new development on my detox face mask  : 
    I used my aqua at 50% 
    xanthan gum 0.5% 
    honey 1.7% 
    glycerine 5% 
    Activated charcoal 10% 
    Clay 30% 
    teatree oil 
    silky wax 2% 
    Preservative 

    so I noticed it was thick but not thick like that, and the after washing it off the face , it felt like there was oil which am thinking is because of the honey . 
    But apart from that , it was great . 
    I did not check the ph tho or am I supposed to check ???? 
  • GordofGordof Member
    depends on Preservative use and in general its good to know if you have a ph shift during stability testing 
    Head of Research and Development 
  • Gordof said:
    depends on Preservative use and in general its good to know if you have a ph shift during stability testing 
    I used liquid Germall 
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