Growth factors and stem cells

Does anyone buy into these? Why or why not? 
I think they are just a claims ingredient, but had two derms insist they are amazing. What are your thoughts? And yes I mean topically in skin. 
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  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    Stems cells are just highly purified plant extracts that are manufactured by plant stem cells so they will not have much effect.

    Growth Factors are a different case and this is probably what the derms are focusing on.
    Chemist/Microbiologist formulating in the Organic & Naturals & Clean Beauty arena under ECOCert/Natural Products Assn/Whole Foods/National Organic Program/Clean At Sephora/Credo Clean guidelines focused skincare & haircare products. 

    See website for details www.desertinbloomcosmeticslab.com
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    Here are my thoughts on the subject of stem cells in cosmetics.
    Basically, I think they are promising but the technology at the moment is simply a claims ingredient with little to no benefit. 

    I'm also highly skeptical that people will see any real effects from topically applied growth factors. These may show promise in cell cultures in the lab but this has not translated into actual topically applied products.

    Some derms are better trained than others and while their advice about skin diseases and conditions is reliable, I'd have much less faith in their advice about daily skin care maintenance. They are easily misinformed & some are motivated to get you to buy into a marketing story so you buy products from them.
  • Stems cells are just highly purified plant extracts that are manufactured by plant stem cells so they will not have much effect.

    Growth Factors are a different case and this is probably what the derms are focusing on.
    Thanks Mark. This makes sense. I’ll study up more on growth factors. I thought they were just humectants. 
  • Perry said:
    Here are my thoughts on the subject of stem cells in cosmetics.
    Basically, I think they are promising but the technology at the moment is simply a claims ingredient with little to no benefit. 

    I'm also highly skeptical that people will see any real effects from topically applied growth factors. These may show promise in cell cultures in the lab but this has not translated into actual topically applied products.

    Some derms are better trained than others and while their advice about skin diseases and conditions is reliable, I'd have much less faith in their advice about daily skin care maintenance. They are easily misinformed & some are motivated to get you to buy into a marketing story so you buy products from them.
    Thanks Perry. The derms also had a stake in the stem cell company soooo. But did spend a good amount of time telling me plant and human cells are the same. Red flag right away, but authority bias hit!
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    edited June 8
    Perry said:
    Here are my thoughts on the subject of stem cells in cosmetics.
    Basically, I think they are promising but the technology at the moment is simply a claims ingredient with little to no benefit. 

    I'm also highly skeptical that people will see any real effects from topically applied growth factors. These may show promise in cell cultures in the lab but this has not translated into actual topically applied products.

    Some derms are better trained than others and while their advice about skin diseases and conditions is reliable, I'd have much less faith in their advice about daily skin care maintenance. They are easily misinformed & some are motivated to get you to buy into a marketing story so you buy products from them.
    Thanks Perry. The derms also had a stake in the stem cell company soooo. But did spend a good amount of time telling me plant and human cells are the same. Red flag right away, but authority bias hit

    @Rockstargirl

    FYI:  I have leaves instead of ears if that helps you any
    Chemist/Microbiologist formulating in the Organic & Naturals & Clean Beauty arena under ECOCert/Natural Products Assn/Whole Foods/National Organic Program/Clean At Sephora/Credo Clean guidelines focused skincare & haircare products. 

    See website for details www.desertinbloomcosmeticslab.com
  • Perry said:
    Here are my thoughts on the subject of stem cells in cosmetics.
    Basically, I think they are promising but the technology at the moment is simply a claims ingredient with little to no benefit. 

    I'm also highly skeptical that people will see any real effects from topically applied growth factors. These may show promise in cell cultures in the lab but this has not translated into actual topically applied products.

    Some derms are better trained than others and while their advice about skin diseases and conditions is reliable, I'd have much less faith in their advice about daily skin care maintenance. They are easily misinformed & some are motivated to get you to buy into a marketing story so you buy products from them.
    Thanks Perry. The derms also had a stake in the stem cell company soooo. But did spend a good amount of time telling me plant and human cells are the same. Red flag right away, but authority bias hit

    @Rockstargirl

    FYI:  I have leaves instead of ears if that helps you any
    Leaves. 🤣 dead 
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    "The derms also had a stake in the stem cell company soooo. But did spend a good amount of time telling me plant and human cells are the same. Red flag right away, but authority bias hit!"

    @Rockstargirl - I always wonder about the quality of any derm who needs to supplement their income by selling dubious anti-aging skin care lines.

  • Perry said:
    "The derms also had a stake in the stem cell company soooo. But did spend a good amount of time telling me plant and human cells are the same. Red flag right away, but authority bias hit!"

    @Rockstargirl - I always wonder about the quality of any derm who needs to supplement their income by selling dubious anti-aging skin care lines.

    100% this. But they are also dancing on tiktok for soap. Perhaps dermatology doesn’t pay what it use too
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